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Erick Estrada · 02-26-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Yamer

I think it is a good message that you should celebrate and feel good when you win and achieve the goal you set for yourself.

So it must be implied that you can't celebrate and feel good without alcohol and tobacco?

Peanut · 02-26-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

Replace that team with a team of 15 year old boys and they win gold in that tournament too.

Yep, we've been over this already. So their Olympic Gold is not an achievement because 15-year old boys are better than women at hockey. Got it.

Flacker · 02-26-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

Replace that team with a team of 15 year old boys and they win gold in that tournament too.

And you wonder why people are playing the gender card, you silly git!

GirlySports · 02-26-2010, 01:08 PM

Why are we comparing women's hockey to men's hockey?
We enjoy women's tennis and don't compare it to the men's game. And Yes a 15 year old boy would beat Serena Williams.

But I do agree with some of you that even looking strictly at the women's game, the quality is quite low. I don't think they're any better now than the gold medal final we all watched in 2002.

HPLovecraft · 02-26-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JayP

Put all of our men in women's events and they probably win almost all the time too while you're at it.

I didn't say men, I said 15 year old boys.

Women compete in other sports. Snowboarding, skiing, luge, etc., and you can tell it's taking real skill, and there's no way in hell I could do what they do without a lifetime of hard practice.

This women's ice hockey team isn't in the same stratosphere as the other other women's teams in other events in the Olympics. I am fully confident I could go out there and dominant the game, and that's just sad.

the_professsor · 02-26-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

Replace that team with a team of 15 year old boys and they win gold in that tournament too.

The quality of some of these arguments is really going downhill...

GreenTeaFrapp · 02-26-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under

What a non-issue.

As for those ripping on women's hockey, here's a little quote from Bobby Clarke talking about Hayley Wickenheiser:

What the hell would Bobby Clarke know about talking at a high level? The guy's a buffoon.

VladtheImpaler · 02-26-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Flacker

And you wonder why people are playing the gender card, you silly git!

Why don't you stop calling people names and actually answer the question - why is the hockey so bad? Women should be able to play as well as men, albeit at lower speed.

Pinner · 02-26-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

I have a bigger issue with smoking in a non-smoking facility.

Oh Pleeease... Do you have any idea the volume of air in that building and how often it is exchanged with fresh just to keep the humidity down...

Blaster86 · 02-26-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by getbak

The only thing wrong with this picture is that she's drinking a Coors Light.

And that they're drinking Segura Viudas. I hope the cigars cost a lot, cause the alcohol is dirt cheap!

ricosuave · 02-26-2010, 01:10 PM

did they blow their noses at center ice too?

Flacker · 02-26-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

How did I start it? I asked a question - being women or men does not affect skill at a sport - it just affects speed/strength. Women skiers, lugers, bobsleighers, figure skaters, snowboarders, whathaveyou seem to be just as good at their sport as their male counterparts, if a bit slower/weaker - I couldn't tell you the difference between the men and women in those sport without seeing the body parts.

So, I am genuinely wondering why women's hockey is just so lacking in team play, "skill" - these ladies play full-time, together for years, so why is there no "hockey sense"? Is it is the coaching?

Look at women's luge/bob/snowboard times verses the men. Not just as good as you state. There is a reason there are mens/womens events. You might want to look into some basic biology if you need further clarification.

flames_fan_down_under · 02-26-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

What the hell would Bobby Clarke know about talking at a high level? The guy's a buffoon.

A 3 time league MVP and hockey hall of famer?

I would wager a guess you think you probably know more? I'll contact the Globe so they can get your take on the situation ok?

Yamer · 02-26-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

So it must be implied that you can't celebrate and feel good without alcohol and tobacco?

It must be? Or might it be traditional?

HPLovecraft · 02-26-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by the_professsor

The quality of some of these arguments is really going downhill...

Why is it wrong to think a sport is bad if children can beat them at it?

Other women's events aren't nearly the same. You can't say the same thing for women's skiing, for example. But you can for hockey. Why is that? And why is it bad to question it?

Schmidtyboosh · 02-26-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

So it must be implied that you can't celebrate and feel good without alcohol and tobacco?

You know what................SHUDDUP!

Peanut · 02-26-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Why don't you stop calling people names and actually answer the question - why is the hockey so bad? Women should be able to play as well as men, albeit at lower speed.

I think probably just because it's still a relatively new sport. Not a lot of girls play hockey (even moreso when these women were young players), so the quality of competition is lower, the pool of quality players is smaller, the quality of coaching is probably lower. There are a bunch of factors that stem from the sport being new/not wildly popular.

I'm no expert by any means, but that would be my assumption.

GreenTeaFrapp · 02-26-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under

A 3 time league MVP and hockey hall of famer?

I would wager a guess you think you probably know more? I'll contact the Globe so they can get your take on the situation ok?

And he was named MVP and to the HOF for his skills at talking? Athletic ability doesn't necessarily mean that someone is intelligent. And defending Allen Eagleson is evidence that someone's pretty stupid.

Peanut · 02-26-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

Why is it wrong to think a sport is bad if children can beat them at it?

Other women's events aren't nearly the same. You can't say the same thing for women's skiing, for example. But you can for hockey. Why is that? And why is it bad to question it?

I don't know for sure that a high-level 16 year old male couldn't beat a female Olympic skier. How do you know that?

Flacker · 02-26-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Why don't you stop calling people names and actually answer the question - why is the hockey so bad? Women should be able to play as well as men, albeit at lower speed.

Hmmm, perhaps it is easier to defend said lower speed resulting in less time and space.

If you watch Midget hockey you will see similar speed/style of play. We should deride midget hockey while we are at it too. Frack that Macs Tourney has got to go, just brutal hockey!!