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Old 02-23-2010, 10:58 PM   #21
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I'm not 100% sure, but I THINK THE SCIENCE EXPERIMENT IS WORKING, guys! Can anybody verify?


Pierre like science!

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Liked how at the end of the game, James Duthie said Jerome leads the way with 5 goals for team Canada but that was against Norway and Germany.

Why are people looking for reasons to downplay this guy, some of our own fans and now even after showing his awesomeness on the top line he still needs to be given an aster-ix for leading the team in goals?
What does that say about the rest of the team who played in those same games? Nash should have 6, Marleau should have 8, Heatley should have 9 or 10 and Crosby should have a dozen. Except they don't and Iggy is leading the way.
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I loved that passing play that they (the line) didn't finish on - that was awesome, rarely see Iginla involved in a Tic Tac Toe like that on the flames.
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Does Jarome's strong play in any way put pressure on Sutter to get him a real centerman? (If not this year then in the offseason I suppose..)

Remember the thread about Iginla being on the decline? Perhaps it is his linemates on the decline and not him..
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Old 02-23-2010, 11:27 PM   #25
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Does Jarome's strong play in any way put pressure on Sutter to get him a real centerman? (If not this year then in the offseason I suppose..)

Remember the thread about Iginla being on the decline? Perhaps it is his linemates on the decline and not him..
Jarome is just having an off-season. I would wait to see another season where he has a significant statistical drop-off before I lable him "declining". Look at Heatley last season. You didn't hear people saying that he was on the decline then, and he certainly isn't on one now.
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As great as Iggy was, I really really liked Stahl tonight. Both were better than Crosby but he'll come around, unless Babcock thinks it's time to break them up because they don't fit into his idea of what a great line is.
To me a great coach is one who can adapt to his players, not the other way around.
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It's quite clear that Babcock is the weak link for Team Canada, every fan that knows anything about the game can see this! but lets get real, Until Babcock is fired from the NHL he will be treated as a god by the media.
I love stuff like this.

I disagree with some of the choices he's made, but I find it interesting that while fans like you that know everything about about the game think he's useless, all those guys who know nothing about the game in the NHL think he's one of the best coaches in the league.

His biggest failure over the last few seasons is making it to the conference final. My guess is he won't be fired by the Wings anytime soon and if he is, he'll have a job before he puts the phone down. You'll be waiting a while for that moron Babcock to be "fired from the NHL".
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I love stuff like this.

I disagree with some of the choices he's made, but I find it interesting that while fans like you that know everything about about the game think he's useless, all those guys who know nothing about the game in the NHL think he's one of the best coaches in the league.

His biggest failure over the last few seasons is making it to the conference final. My guess is he won't be fired by the Wings anytime soon and if he is, he'll have a job before he puts the phone down. You'll be waiting a while for that moron Babcock to be "fired from the NHL".
The NHL and this tournament are two different animals. At any rate, this guy has made some pretty baffling decisions, so simply because he knows more than the average CP poster should not put him above criticism.
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I love stuff like this.

I disagree with some of the choices he's made, but I find it interesting that while fans like you that know everything about about the game think he's useless, all those guys who know nothing about the game in the NHL think he's one of the best coaches in the league.
Those NHL guys were just fooled by the fact that he can only win with a stacked Detroit Red Wings team.

If it weren't for that stacked Red Wings team that, other coaches couldn't win with, he would never have won at Red Deer College, University of Lethbridge, Spokane or Anaheim.

The guy has clearly shown over his successful career that he is solely the product of a stacked Wings team.

It isn't the fault of the smartest people in hockey to understand that. It takes internet nerds to get past he sneaky trick of riding the coat tails of that Red Wings team to get all of the success that he has over his career.
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"We don't need Iginla to score goals." - Mike Babcock
Probably in his mind, he's also thinking, we don't need to play Iggy all that much either --> total dumb-ass! And look what Iggy's done. He's the leading scorer in the whole tournament and playing a quarter of the minutes he's used to playing?!? WTF???
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one game doesn't 'un-idiot' babcock.
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Old 02-24-2010, 12:28 AM   #32
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The NHL and this tournament are two different animals. At any rate, this guy has made some pretty baffling decisions, so simply because he knows more than the average CP poster should not put him above criticism.
Who said he's above criticism?

I think he's made a couple wrong decisions too.

I was responding to the dumb remark that anyone who doesn't believe he's a "weak link" propped up by the media knows nothing at all about hockey.

Should Jarome have been playing with Crosby since the first puck dropped? I think so. Does that mean Babcock is an idiot, a dumbass or a weak link? I don't think so. Do you?

The guy has been an NHL coach for the last six years and he's been to the Finals 3 times, winning once. Not too shabby. I wish the Flames had a fool like him coaching since 2004.
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Jarome has scored 10 goals in his olympic career for Team Canada. That has to lead all Canadian NHL olympians since NHLers were allowed to compete in the winter olympics. Can anybody confirm this?
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Babcock is a fine coach with excellent credentials. He's certainly not the ###### that some of you are portraying him as.

I remember watching his Red Deer College team on my first visit to Canada WAAAY back in 1989 IIRC. They were a well oiled machine out there, obviously very well coached. His Spokane team were really tough to play against, again very well coached.

With that said, I have struggled with some of his decisions at the Olympics, thus far. His handling of Iginla has been baffling at best. His use of the struggling duo of Perry and Getzlaf is insane to my eyes. Pronger has been a pylon out there but is utilized at the worst possible times. I'm not sure why he has persisted with some of this madness. A little inexperience at this level where you pretty much have zero time to create chemistry and gel as a team perhaps?

I truly hope he sticks with his lines now. There's no point switching them up yet again when the Russians come calling tomorrow. Suck it up, Mike. You were wrong: you actually do need Iginla's goals, quite badly actually.
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Jarome has scored 10 goals in his olympic career for Team Canada. That has to lead all Canadian NHL olympians since NHLers were allowed to compete in the winter olympics. Can anybody confirm this?
Yes. Since 1998, Iginla has 10 goals while Sakic and Heatley have 6 each for 2nd place.
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Yes. Since 1998, Iginla has 10 goals while Sakic and Heatley have 6 each for 2nd place.
But Iginla only scores against bad teams so it doesn't count.
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But Iginla only scores against bad teams so it doesn't count.
I assume youre being sarcastic.

but in case thats a no, except for the 2 in the gold medal game in 2002. It was actually 3 as he clearly tipped in Sakics goal
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I assume youre being sarcastic.

but in case thats a no, except for the 2 in the gold medal game in 2002. It was actually 3 as he clearly tipped in Sakics goal
I've asked Iggy about this, he said he didn't tip it.
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I've asked Iggy about this, he said he didn't tip it.
He's just too nice to take it away from Sakic lol
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