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Puddy27 · 02-19-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Babcock is only doing what Brent Sutter was a afraid to do in a few games earlier this season.

Well Babcock can throw out superstars next...Brent Sutter can throw out...Glencross, Nystrom, Langkow etc.

Comparing apples to oranges.

flip · 02-19-2010, 10:49 AM

So does that mean we can gather up our pitchforks and torches?

Some of you guys are pretty damn angry for a game that Canada won, will hardly effect us at all since Russia lost too, and Iggy played about par for the course this season. Now all of a sudden Babcock is a traitor who needs to be shot into space? WTF?

CGY12 · 02-19-2010, 10:55 AM

You clearly didn't watch the game flip. This year as a Flame at times Iggy has been down right bad but yesterday he was playing fine and the top line was getting chances. He was penalized because his line couldn't finish which is ridiculous. This game may not effect the Canadians because Russia lost (LUCKY) but it doesn't exactly scream gold medal champs.

silentsim · 02-19-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CGY12

but it doesn't exactly scream gold medal champs.

And Russia does?

Flashpoint · 02-19-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Joborule

If that's an actual quote I gotta think Babcock may not be that bright.

Whoa whoa whoa! Lets not forget this man is the genius leading the talent laden Detroit Red Wings to 10th place in the conference!

Not just any Kevin Lowe can do that! It takes a special guy!

Yzerman picked his buddy to coach. Not the best coach available.

flip · 02-19-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CGY12

You clearly didn't watch the game flip. This year as a Flame at times Iggy has been down right bad but yesterday he was playing fine and the top line was getting chances. He was penalized because his line couldn't finish which is ridiculous. This game may not effect the Canadians because Russia lost (LUCKY) but it doesn't exactly scream gold medal champs.

You clearly don't know s*** about hockey CGY12, so you may as well have not watched the game.

There are so many reasons why Iggy's ice time may have been cut. You have no idea why.

silentsim · 02-19-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Flashpoint

Whoa whoa whoa! Lets not forget this man is the genius leading the talent laden Detroit Red Wings to 10th place in the conference!

Not just any Kevin Lowe can do that! It takes a special guy!

Yzerman picked his buddy to coach. Not the best coach available.

Oh please. Babcock is an amazing coach, and was an amazing coach in Anaheim prior to Detroit.

Even the best of coaches teams suffer when alot of core guys are out of the lineup due to injury (Detroit this season)

Flashpoint · 02-19-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by silentsim

Oh please. Babcock is a great coach, and was a great coach in Anaheim prior to Detroit.

So why did he bench Iginla, and why are the Wings in 10th place? Injuries are a nice excuse, but great coaches find ways to win. Look at Phoenix this year under Tippet. That place has been the Island of Misfit Toys for years, and when they finally get a real coach - BAM! Success.

Anaheim had great players. As does team Canada. Which is why we'll be successful in spite of Babcock.

silentsim · 02-19-2010, 11:09 AM

The funniest part of CP: People thinking they know more then a coach who has won at the highest levels in the NHL.

silentsim · 02-19-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Flashpoint

So why did he bench Iginla, and why are the Wings in 10th place?

Anaheim had great players. As does team Canada. Which is why we'll be successful in spite of Babcock.

Injuries, i noted that. The Mule was out for a long time. They have terrible goaltending, and have relied on Howard since Osgood is bad.

Give the Wings a goaltender and even with the injuries would be top 5 in the NHL.

Flashpoint · 02-19-2010, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by silentsim

Injuries, i noted that. The Mule was out for a long time. They have terrible goaltending, and have relied on Howard since Osgood is bad.

Give the Wings a goaltender and even with the injuries would be top 5 in the NHL.

Give the Wings a coach, and I'll agree with you.

flip · 02-19-2010, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Flashpoint

So why did he bench Iginla, and why are the Wings in 10th place?

Anaheim had great players. As does team Canada. Which is why we'll be successful in spite of Babcock.

Dude, we've played 2 frickin' games. One of which we won 8-0. The other we deserved to win and won in a shoutout.

How can you or anyone else unequivocally act like this tourney and Babcock a failure after 2 friggin' games? TWO!!!!

Seriously, this thread reads like we just lost in the qualification round to Latvia and we're out of the tourney. Not like a thread about a team who will almost certainly finish FIRST in their pool and finish in the TOP 2 of the bye round and get to play a low ranked team in the quarterfinals.

silentsim · 02-19-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Flashpoint

Give the Wings a coach, and I'll agree with you.

You have to be one of the dumbest posters on CP right now.

Babcock is a GREAT coach, and don't you think for one second that it was a decision made solely by Babcock.

There is more then one coach on this team.

CGY12 · 02-19-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by flip

Dude, we've played 2 frickin' games. One of which we won 8-0. The other we deserved to win and won in a shoutout.

How can you or anyone else unequivocally act like this tourney and Babcock a failure after 2 friggin' games? TWO!!!!

Seriously, this thread reads like we just lost in the qualification round to Latvia and we're out of the tourney. Not like a thread about a team who will almost certainly finish FIRST in their pool and finish in the TOP 2 of the bye round and get to play a low ranked team in the quarterfinals.

If it weren't for Brodeur playing great in a SHOOTOUT last night the result would have matched what happened in 2006. Do you remember what happened that year? People have the right to question what is going on after a game like that against a team that shouldn't have even been in it after 2.

flip · 02-19-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CGY12

If it weren't for Brodeur playing great in a SHOOTOUT last night the result would have matched what happened in 2006. Do you remember what happened that year? People have the right to question what is going on after a game like that against a team that shouldn't have even been in it after 2.

You aren't questioning, you are acting like a chicken little or a mob with your torches and pitchforks.

Questioning involves asking questions, not just making ridiculous blanket statements like "Babcock sucks and is ruining this team".

CGY12 · 02-19-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by silentsim

You have to be one of the dumbest posters on CP right now.

Babcock is a GREAT coach, and don't you think for one second that it was a decision made solely by Babcock.

There is more then one coach on this team.

Bob is that you? Coaching in the NHL over a 82 game schedule and long playoff is vastly different than coaching in a short round robin/elimination game Olympic tournament.

Flashpoint · 02-19-2010, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by flip

Dude, we've played 2 frickin' games. One of which we won 8-0. The other we deserved to win and won in a shoutout.

How can you or anyone else unequivocally act like this tourney and Babcock a failure after 2 friggin' games? TWO!!!!

Seriously, this thread reads like we just lost in the qualification round to Latvia and we're out of the tourney. Not like a thread about a team who will almost certainly finish FIRST in their pool and finish in the TOP 2 of the bye round and get to play a low ranked team in the quarterfinals.

I didn't call him (or the tourney) a failure. I just said he's a crappy coach.

His performance this year for the Wings, and his nonsensical benching of Iginla seem to support my opinion - hence my post.

I can't speak to the tone of the thread. I just think the benching is more of a product of a bad coach than a failing of Iginla.

shadetree · 02-19-2010, 11:22 AM

I'm not about to call Babcock stupid. I'm pretty sure he knows more about hockey than I ever will.

But he says he wants Iginla to be a physical presence. He takes Iggy off the Crosby line and replaces him with Toews. Toews does absolutely nothing, and he's playing out of position (at LW, with Nash playing out of position at RW to accomodate him). That doesn't make sense to me.

And then he puts Iginla out there with Richards and Morrow. Every time that line was out there in the third, they dominated the Swiss physically and generated one scoring chance after another. They provided the physical presence he asked for, and sorely needed in that game. And yet they only got 2 or 3 shifts in the 3rd?

Flashpoint · 02-19-2010, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by silentsim

You have to be one of the dumbest posters on CP right now.

LOL

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Babcock is a GREAT coach

Prove it. His record doesn't.

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don't you think for one second that it was a decision made solely by Babcock.There is more then one coach on this team.

Which is it? Is Babcock a great coach, or was this decision made by some other "GREAT" coach on the staff?

CGY12 · 02-19-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by flip

You aren't questioning, you are acting like a chicken little or a mob with your torches and pitchforks.

Questioning involves asking questions, not just making ridiculous blanket statements like "Babcock sucks and is ruining this team".

How we are acting is irrelevant to the situation. We wouldn't be talking about it if the team and coaching staff performed better last night. IMO coaching mistakes played a large role in last nights shocking result. Is that so hard for people to understand?