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Old 02-05-2010, 11:58 AM   #81
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I'm guessing that we're seeing two different timelines.

In the one we see that the Island has sunkunder the ocean, that the main players made it to LAX with some exceptions (Christian) Boones sister etc and that some key items, the body, Locke's knives have vanished. I'm assuming that when Juliet hit the bomb it exploded and combined with the energy pocket to split realities.

In the second, the bomb failed to destroy the energy pocket so events didn't change and they are still on the Island. With Sayid's death, I'm almost convinced that Jacob has found a loop hole of his own and he's either all the way in or partially in Sayid. While its clear that Smoggy wants to leave the Island and go home, Jacob is there to keep him on the Island. In effect I think that the Island is suppossed to be like a prison to hold ultimate good and ultimate evil occupied and contained. I also go back to the religious symbols like the Anhk (sp?) and some of the gliefs on the walls and the large statue that are very egyptian in their content and wonder if these two represent Ra the sun god (Jacob) and Osirus god of the dead who has a stunning similarity to the statue.

I have a feeling that the two realities also at some point have to merge, perhaps if Jacob is able to defeate Smoggy he will grant freedom in gratitude, because I think its clear that their lives in the non Island reality might be easier, they are not good lives.
The statue's been revealed to be Taweret:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taweret
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Thats funny, because it looks nothing like her. However she did marry the god of evil, so with that massive leap of logic, maybe its smoggy's salute to his wife.
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Old 02-05-2010, 12:34 PM   #83
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Thats funny, because it looks nothing like her. However she did marry the god of evil, so with that massive leap of logic, maybe its smoggy's salute to his wife.
Fertility has been a big theme in Lost since the inception of the series. Remember, women that become pregnant on-island die, and Juliet was brought to the island for that reason. Taweret was a fertility goddess.

The statute does look quite a bit like her, just thinner and holding different things, along with the male skirt thingy Egyptians wore.



Even has four toes...
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Here's the model created for the show.

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I don't disagree. Let's just say I am 65% for, 45% against. I can guarantee that they did this on purpose and we will find out if he went on it or not this season though.
65% +45% = ?
more than certainty.
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110%

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Old 02-09-2010, 10:21 PM   #88
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That episode kind of sucked. Real disappointed in it. Bad acting, huge leaps of faith (especially in the AR with Claire and Kate), and not much happening. You'd think each episode would be packed considering this is the final season and there's so much to be answered.
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That episode kind of sucked. Real disappointed in it. Bad acting, huge leaps of faith (especially in the AR with Claire and Kate), and not much happening. You'd think each episode would be packed considering this is the final season and there's so much to be answered.
Gotta agree... there better be a point to these flash "sideways" in terms of answering questions.
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That episode kind of sucked. Real disappointed in it. Bad acting, huge leaps of faith (especially in the AR with Claire and Kate), and not much happening. You'd think each episode would be packed considering this is the final season and there's so much to be answered.
Agreed. It's a shame that with so much story hinted at over these years they're wasting time with these "if the plane never crashed" stories. I mean obviously they're showing that these people were fated to interact. But I mean half an episode devoted to one portion of it while advancing the real story with like 5 minutes is pretty bad.

It reminds me of BSG's final season wasting an episode with Tye and his wife's bickering with like 4 episodes left.
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You're basing your opinion of a show off 2 episodes? I don't know man, I'm all for judging books by their covers but that's pretty intense.
See this I don't get....why can't someone base their opinion of a show after 2 episodes? Hell, why can't they base their opinion of a show after 1 episode? It is after all a TV show...

I don't like Lost, there, I said it. I watched the first episode, I've watched a few other tidbits here and there and I've heard about it continually from the hordes of Lost followers. When I mention I'm not a fan of the show I immediately get grilled. "How can you not like Lost?!?!?" After explaining that I've watched a bit and never quite understood the hype I often get "You can't base your opinion after a few episodes, you have to watch at least ____".

After this season there will be 150+ episodes? Can someone explain to me why I have to watch 150 episodes before I'm allowed to form an opinion of the show? Whatever happened to TV show's being one offs? You know, you've got 30-60mins to kill and you're able to sit down and watch a show. Why do they have to be these series that take hours of dedication?
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See this I don't get....why can't someone base their opinion of a show after 2 episodes? Hell, why can't they base their opinion of a show after 1 episode? It is after all a TV show...

I don't like Lost, there, I said it. I watched the first episode, I've watched a few other tidbits here and there and I've heard about it continually from the hordes of Lost followers. When I mention I'm not a fan of the show I immediately get grilled. "How can you not like Lost?!?!?" After explaining that I've watched a bit and never quite understood the hype I often get "You can't base your opinion after a few episodes, you have to watch at least ____".

After this season there will be 150+ episodes? Can someone explain to me why I have to watch 150 episodes before I'm allowed to form an opinion of the show? Whatever happened to TV show's being one offs? You know, you've got 30-60mins to kill and you're able to sit down and watch a show. Why do they have to be these series that take hours of dedication?
They don't have to be series that take hours of dedication. There are tons of shows that are easily digestible 42 minute mini movies. Lost isn't one of them.

It obviously doesn't work for you and there's a lot of people that don't like the series. If you don't feel it's worth the time to learn about the series that's fine. However you really can't judge the show adequately by watching one show with no context 5 years into its run. It's just not one of those shows.
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So can somebody do me a favor? I was watching the episode last night and it was a snoozer and I fell asleep. What happened in the last 15 minutes or so?
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So can somebody do me a favor? I was watching the episode last night and it was a snoozer and I fell asleep. What happened in the last 15 minutes or so?
oh man, poor cap'n. As usual the only interesting stuff happened in the last 15 minutes.

This may have some overlap with what you watched.

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Kate followed Sawyer back to the Others little town where he was digging up a memento box. They talked at the dock about how he was going to marry her and he was holding a ring which he then threw into the water.

Kate's side story has her with Claire in the hospital, the doctor is Ethan, one of the original others (which makes no sense since he would have obviously still been on the island regardless of the plane crashing), Claire covers for Kate when cops come looking for her. Kate suggests to Claire that she keeps the baby.

On the Island, Jack is told to give Sayid a pill, he doesn't want to and when he confronts the Japanese guy about it and takes it himself, the Japanese guy heimlich's it out of him and tells him it is poison. The reason they wanted to poison him is that a darkness is taking Sayid, and once it reaches his heart he will change. He says it happened before, to Jack's sister.

It then cuts back to Jin with the two Others, the two others are shot, and when the gunman is revealed, it is Claire looking all Danielle Rousseau style.
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So who is occupying Locke's body?
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So who is occupying Locke's body?
The smoke monster aka. Jacobs nemesis.
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I'm surprised this thread isn't buzzing more after each of these episodes hits the air. As soon as I saw the black and white stone I kept thinking of when the survivors found that cave with two skeletons (one with a black stone and the other with a white one). The popular guess was always that this is Rose and Bernard somehow but now I don't know what to think.

Fun episode though. Doesn't make sense that a Sawyer who is plastered on whiskey could climb down a ladder like that, must have sobered up fast.
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The smoke monster aka. Jacobs nemesis.
So that's what the smoke monster is? Jacob's nemesis? I am so confused with this whole show.
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So that's what the smoke monster is? Jacob's nemesis? I am so confused with this whole show.
I find it's actually coming together nicely. Leaving questions to be answered without asking a pile of new ones that throw in you every which direction.

Smoke monster = Jacob's nemesis, it took the form of John Locke, can't take another's according to Iliana.

It's a show-down between Jacob and his nemesis, everything else seems to be immaterial. Ben seems defeated but might just be part of his plan, as he always has a plan.

I'm sticking to the theory that everything the others in Dharma-ville were taught about Jacob were lies by the nemesis, saying things in the name of Jacob that actually were his own.
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Then again, maybe the smoke monster is right, maybe there really is nothing to protect and Jacob is just recruiting people for some weirdo reason (cult-ish maybe). The monster did say that he was going to look for Jacob now, so I'm guessing that's now Syaid, as he just came back to "life". Miles certainly heard him say something right before his death though, by the look on his face.

I figured this thread would be jumping too after the shows, but guess not! Will wait and see some more I suppose. Now we have to wonder who that new kid is with the rules, or maybe that's Jacob?
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