Lol, thanks man, that second one was the one I was referring too. I wouldn't figure the wind would be that bad. But what do I know.
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Lol, thanks man, that second one was the one I was referring too. I wouldn't figure the wind would be that bad. But what do I know.
It might be noticeable, but probably not that bad. One thing's for sure, it will beat the hell out of standing on a platform in the median of Crowchild Trail or 36th Street NE.
They will all open at the same time (December 10th, 2012), but some will start work before others. For instance, I think the 69th Street Station will start quite a bit ahead of Sirocco Station. They also won't be able to start work on the 26th Street Station until a lot of work on Bow Trail is done.
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I would assume the vast majority of people in those neighborhoods love the fact that they can get to downtown/school a lot faster than they ever did before. And those who don't use the LRT probably enjoy the reduction in traffic on the roads, and the increase in property value that will inevitably happen.
Teenagers don't come out to the LRT just so they can break into some cars 20 blocks away from the station in Arbour Lake. The "riff-raff" probably already lives there.
The riff-raff doesn't live there. The majority don't live in their communities and the majority aren't teenagers. Its a very easy, convenient form of transportation for them and now opens up new communities to target.
Furthermore to that, and especially with the Crowfoot station (and I guess soon to be the Tuscany/Rocky ridge station), is that that is where the Remand Centre drops off people.
And its not 20 blocks away to Arbour Lake. You can get to the west side of Arbour Lake in about 2-3 minutes if you go up past the 7-11 in Crowfoot.
Might be getting ahead of myself here, but are there any plans for expand it past the 69th st station?
With the rather large and somewhat fancy Aspen Glen Landing shopping area opening might I'd be surprised if it doesn't head down that way eventually.
Yes, there will be an extension to Aspen Woods Station sometime in the future (probably not too long after the initial line open actually). The station will be in the community of Aspen Woods, west of 85th Street and north of 17th Avenue SW.
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Red is the LRT ROW, blue is the future Aspen Woods Station location (give or take).
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I'm also curious to find out how much more business Shaganappi Golf Course will get as a result of having a train stop right at its' doorstep. There will likely be more than a few white collar types heading up the hill a few stops from downtown to get in a bucket or two.
To the first post, here is a concept rendering from the Anderson Station Area Plan draft:
As for the second post and new stations, and more importantly on the topic of the West LRT, here is a couple concept renderings from the Westbrook Village Area Plan:
You forgot the best one of all - the Brentwood Station Area Redevelopment Plan. So beautifully written.
All the streets it is crossing at grade are either low volume, have been designed for the at-grade crossing from the outset (especially west of Sarcee Trail), or both. Some streets are being closed as well.
Calgary's brand of LRT will always have some at-grade crossings in certain places. Plenty of other cities do this as well, many of them bigger than Calgary. There's not much need to have grade separation on an LRT line as it crosses low volume streets through lower density residential areas, especially when many of those streets were designed with this in mind.
Ah, the problem was that I was looking at the older video. In it, it crosses the streets west of 37th St at ground level, including some busy ones like 45th. The design is changed to have it run under the streets in the newer video.
Are the existing engines strong enough to pull up the grade on the 17th Ave hill west of Sarcee? Or do they need to get stronger trains for that? The overpass will help decrease the adverse grade, but that's still a beotch of a hill for a train.
Are the existing engines strong enough to pull up the grade on the 17th Ave hill west of Sarcee? Or do they need to get stronger trains for that? The overpass will help decrease the adverse grade, but that's still a beotch of a hill for a train.
It is a bit of a climb. The interchange will ease quite a bit of the grade though. I believe that LRT like Calgary and Edmonton's are good with grades up to about 6-6.5%. The elevated guideway further down the West LRT line helps negotiate grades there. No stronger trains needed.
New trains are needed to service the extra track mileage being built for the West LRT though, along with the NW to Tuscany and NE to Saddletowne extensions. 34 new LRVs have been ordered for these new extensions, plus four more to replace some older retired LRVs. They will be a little different than what we have seen in Calgary before. There will be a different seating arrangement, exterior profile and air conditioning. Here's a video and a couple screen captures to show the new style LRVs:
