John Mayer - affirmation that he is a total ###### bag - the playboy interview

[Weiser Wonder]

Originally Posted by Mayer

You can say that about anyone. There are a lot of musicians who are highly regarded who I think are garbage. It's all opinion.

It's true, anyone can have any opinion they wish. That doesn't mean their opinion is intelligent or valid.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Young-Sneezy

i love how people grasp onto a few brash thing that he says in the interview and run with them like he is a huge ######, however there are a few things that are surely facts from this interview:

1) if we were all 32 and in his shoes, we would do the same thing
2) the "hood-pass" comment was bordering a bit over the top, but i think he was just trying to convey it in a different way.
3) he can murder any of us via guitar so we can just suck it.
4) at least he doesn't use adoption as a scheme to gain fame, smoke crack, have babies with deadbeat white "rapper/singer/...dancer..." guys

if i could give john mayer a thanks for that interview i would.

Umm, are those really facts or merely speculative assumptions? do we know any of those to be definitively true or false?
just saying.

[YourMother]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

Umm, are those really facts or merely speculative assumptions? do we know any of those to be definitively true or false?
just saying.

John Mayer has no adopted children.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

I came into this thread all ready to mock John Mayer for his douchiness...

And then the interview was pretty tame, in the end. Not really sure what all the drama was about. Just a standard interview, with really pretty minimal sexual boasting considering the track record of who he's slept with.

Does he sound like someone I'd have drinks with? No. He didn't say anything to make me suddenly find him interesting.

But that's partly because I think his music is cookie-cutter crap, his voice is average and he uses his guitar mostly as a prop to make himself look "moody" on stage. He's just... not a great musician.

But... also not a ######bag--at least not if that interview is our only evidence. Really, the interview was kind of like his music. Bland, silly and a bit shallow. My reaction isn't outrage--it's just "meh."

I'm not a huge Mayer fan, but he's an incredibly talented guitarist. That's an opinion shared by many people in the music industry.

[Ozy_Flame]

I envy the guy. 32, happily single, money in the bank, a great guitarist, and really entertaining when he gives interviews like this. What did some of you want to hear? That he wants to settle down, have kids, and trade in his bachelorhood because society expects it of him? If you wanted that, go ask 99% of everybody else. I'm on John Mayer's side on this one.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by valo403

I'm not a huge Mayer fan, but he's an incredibly talented guitarist. That's an opinion shared by many people in the music industry.

Those people must not be guitar players. But it doesn't matter anyway.... I agree that he's not a ######bag. Not based on that interview, anyway.

[Hack&Lube]

There are tons of celebrities whose thought patterns are ######y but their publicists usually keep it under control.

Look what happened to Tom Cruise when he fired his publicist and replaced her with his sister.

Mayer is not a bad guitarist and I enjoy some of his music but most guitar forums usually look down upon his talent. I'm no where near as good personally but when speaking technique wise, Mayer plays only very simple stuff most guitar players can master.

[Clarkey]

He thinks he's so cute and witty, what a ######.

Being able to play the guitar does not excuse the fact that he is an attention seeking tool.

[wooohooo]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

There are tons of celebrities whose thought patterns are ######y but their publicists usually keep it under control.

Look what happened to Tom Cruise when he fired his publicist and replaced her with his sister.

Mayer is not a bad guitarist and I enjoy some of his music but most guitar forums usually look down upon his talent. I'm no where near as good personally but when speaking technique wise, Mayer plays only very simple stuff most guitar players can master.

The beauty of why I like him is he plays something a little different than the normal artist. He adds his little twist like if he you look at his cords, they're not your normal chords and while simple they sound a lot different which adds a whole new element to it for me. And his voice is extremely unique. He's like a less laid-back Jack Johnson

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Diamondhead

I didnt even want to read this but the link kept popping up. What a train wreck.

http://www.celebitchy.com/91076/john...e_hood_passes/

Another celebitchy reader/fan?! I'm impressed.

[Diet Water]

I am honestly surprised about how badly John Mayer bothers some people.

I am definitely not a fan of the guy, I heard his teeny bopper crap like 5 years ago and thought it was terrible. Then I saw him playing with God(Clapton) and decided to give him one more chance, still didn't like him and then that was the end of it.

He is pretty irrelevant to me, I don't see the point in dwelling over somebody who bothers you so much.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by Mayer

You can say that about anyone. There are a lot of musicians who are highly regarded who I think are garbage. It's all opinion.

You think there is no way to measure the skill and talent of a musician and/or any other artist? People may enjoy music that is talentless, but the talent of said musician themselves CAN be sought and determined. The enjoyment level of said music is what is normally subjective.

[Mayer]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Those people must not be guitar players. But it doesn't matter anyway.... I agree that he's not a ######bag. Not based on that interview, anyway.

Right.

Buddy Guy, Eric Clapton, BB King, John Scofield, Kieth Urban, Brad Paisley.

All not guitar players.

You can dislike his music for sure, but saying he's not a good guitarist is just plain uninformed.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Mayer

Right.

Buddy Guy, Eric Clapton, BB King, John Scofield, Kieth Urban, Brad Paisley.

All not guitar players.

You can dislike his music for sure, but saying he's not a good guitarist is just plain uninformed.

You really are defensive about this, aren't you? I thought it was all a matter of opinion anyway?

Look, I think John Mayer is a terrible musician. His music is derivative and poor, and he's an average guitar player at best. He's like a much less interesting and less talented Nick Drake. It's radio-friendly cookie-cutter crap. Objectively speaking.

Ordinarily, I wouldn't care enough to even post about it. 90% of popular music is garbage anyway. He just... doesn't stand out from the crowd, that's all. I'm sure he's a super guy, but it is weird for such an average musician to be so overrated. He's like the Brian Campbell of popular music.

What's more interesting to me is that you first claim it's all a matter of opinion, and then feel the need to defend him.

[Mayer]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

You really are defensive about this, aren't you? I thought it was all a matter of opinion anyway?

Look, I think John Mayer is a terrible musician. His music is derivative and poor, and he's an average guitar player at best. He's like a much less interesting and less talented Nick Drake. It's radio-friendly cookie-cutter crap. Objectively speaking.

Ordinarily, I wouldn't care enough to even post about it. 90% of popular music is garbage anyway. He just... doesn't stand out from the crowd, that's all. I'm sure he's a super guy, but it is weird for such an average musician to be so overrated. He's like the Brian Campbell of popular music.

What's more interesting to me is that you first claim it's all a matter of opinion, and then feel the need to defend him.

I was more speaking about whether you think his music is good or not. Thats clearly opinion.

Musical talent, to me, isn't opinion. I wasn't clear on this at the start (which is why HP was confused I think). I can look at an artist who's music is the last thing I'd listen to, yet still appreciate and recognize their talent.

Clearly, some people can't do that.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Mayer

I was more speaking about whether you think his music is good or not. Thats clearly opinion.

Musical talent, to me, isn't opinion. I wasn't clear on this at the start (which is why HP was confused I think). I can look at an artist who's music is the last thing I'd listen to, yet still appreciate and recognize their talent.

Clearly, some people can't do that.

Well, in fact--it takes a lot more talent than most people realize to be a cookie-cutter musician. But if you're comparing him to real musicians--people who stand out from the crowd as innovators and true talents, then John Mayer is objectively very average. There's a lot of technical proficiency required when you're appealing to the lowest common denominator--the problem is that pretty well everyone in the business has at least that level of technical proficiency.

But I'm sure he's a swell guy. And look--I'm not even saying he's utterly without talent. He's just... average.

And yeah--I can appreciate the talent of people who I don't listen to. I also have a good deal of experience in music that I won't get into here. But if John Mayer is what passes for a "talented guitarist" nowadays, then our talent pool has fallen on hard times. He's a midget next to the guitar greats of our generation--I'm honestly surprised you can't see that.

You have to be very good to be average in the music business. But in the end, that's all John Mayer is--technically speaking. Of course, creatively speaking he's far worse--but that's another story.

[Mayer]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Well, in fact--it takes a lot more talent than most people realize to be a cookie-cutter musician. But if you're comparing him to real musicians--people who stand out from the crowd as innovators and true talents, then John Mayer is objectively very average. There's a lot of technical proficiency required when you're appealing to the lowest common denominator--the problem is that pretty well everyone in the business has at least that level of technical proficiency.

But I'm sure he's a swell guy. And look--I'm not even saying he's utterly without talent. He's just... average.

And yeah--I can appreciate the talent of people who I don't listen to. I also have a good deal of experience in music that I won't get into here. But if John Mayer is what passes for a "talented guitarist" nowadays, then our talent pool has fallen on hard times. He's a midget next to the guitar greats of our generation--I'm honestly surprised you can't see that.

You have to be very good to be average in the music business. But in the end, that's all John Mayer is--technically speaking. Of course, creatively speaking he's far worse--but that's another story.

I disagree with pretty much everything you said, but there is no convincing a hater.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Mayer

I disagree with pretty much everything you said, but there is no convincing a hater.

So... you don't think he's a swell guy?

[MelBridgeman]

Wow you guys need to leave Mayer alone..his musical tastes are the least of his or our worries, he likes the canucks...pick on him for that...cause that is bad...just bad

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Wow you guys need to leave Mayer alone..his musical tastes are the least of his or our worries, he likes the canucks...pick on him for that...cause that is bad...just bad

For me, the two explain each other... I just want to know if he also thought The Da Vinci Code was a good book--that would be the trifecta.