Because the city was not prepared, this is not a 'winter' city by any stretch and from day one we knew these protests and riots would happen.
I'll agree that Vancouver is not necessarily a winter city but the infrastructure for the events are there and it's proximity to the mountains is good enough reason for me. There are always criticisms for every host city that they won't be ready (if I recall correctly, the birds nest stadium in Beijing was almost not complete in time). I don't know what to say about protesters. I guess that if the events are run in a free country, protests will come with the territory.
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Geez, how can I put this so you can grasp what I am saying. I stated that I am not surprised given problems with people destroying things in the past that it is happening in Vancouver. It has nothing to do with the people of Vancouver!!!! If the Olympics were in Montreal I would be saying the exact same thing. A city that has a history of things being smashed during sporting events. Do you get it yet?
No I dont. You still are blaming the city as evidenced by your initial post and follow up. Its weak and simply untrue.
And if you aren't blaming the city and arent blaming the people of Vancouver and arent blaming those that may have come from elsewhere...i sure would like to know who you ARE blaming.
Yes, I am sure those protesters flew across the world to smash windows. Have you forgotten about the year the Canucks lost in the Stanley Cup finals? What is ridiculous is your 9/11 statement.
Actually it's very common for activists to fly in from all over the world to engage in protests at high profile events
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No I dont. You still are blaming the city as evidenced by your initial post and follow up. Its weak and simply untrue.
And if you aren't blaming the city and arent blaming the people of Vancouver and arent blaming those that may have come from elsewhere...i sure would like to know who you ARE blaming.
Forget it, your grasping at straws for the sake of arguing. The point was there are protesters smashing windows, I could care less if they are from Vancouver, Russia, or Mars. Let's not derail the main topic.
In fact how do you even know that the donkeys perpetrating things are even from Vancouver?
That's like blaming NY for 9/11.
Just a ridiculous statement.
9/11? WTF? This is among your worst posts. How your mind came to the connection between local Vancouver protestors (who are prevalent at any given time) and the foreign terrorists of 9/11 is beyond me. Everyone on earth knew these local protest groups would make themselves known. How? Because those same local protest groups said they would. They aren't from Calgary, or anywhere else, they're local. Making this situation nothing even remotely close to 9/11. I have to think that you've had a lapse in judgement in making this post.
To completely simplify it, they don't like the Olympics as they feel the money poured into the Olympics would have been better spent on social services, affordable housing, education, etc.
Then they are stupid protesters because the money would not have been spent on those things anyhow.
Some feel that organizers had promised to help with those issues (homelessness, poverty, etc) as part of the preparation for the Olympics and they feel those promises were broken. I've also heard that some don't like the idea of it being a big show of Native culture since they believe the natives are mistreated/ignored, etc. on a regular basis.
I'll agree that Vancouver is not necessarily a winter city but the infrastructure for the events are there and it's proximity to the mountains is good enough reason for me. There are always criticisms for every host city that they won't be ready (if I recall correctly, the birds nest stadium in Beijing was almost not complete in time). I don't know what to say about protesters. I guess that if the events are run in a free country, protests will come with the territory.
Nothing against the city itself but you can't say +11 plus rain is where the games should be held. Vancouver would be a better Summer games city IMO but it wouldn't sell like Hockey will.
I also don't enjoy having to pay off something for the next 40 years so we can party for two weeks.
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Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
Then they are stupid protesters because the money would not have been spent on those things anyhow.
That's a bit much. Their methods aren't effective, but their intentions are justified. A lot of corporate snuggling is going on this week, and Vancouver isn't going to see a dime of it, despite the fact that they've poured hundreds of millions into putting on the games. The obvious fact here is that Vancouver is one of the most socially aware cities in the world. Couple that with unprecedented homelessness and drug usage, you're going to have issues when the world's largest corporate circus moves in.
The 1994 Stanley Cup Riot occurred in Downtown Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, on the evening of June 14, 1994 and continued into the following morning. The riot arose after Game 7 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals in which the Vancouver Canucks lost to the New York Rangers.
After the NHL contest was concluded, 50,000 to 70,000 individuals reportedly converged upon Downtown Vancouver. What initially was a gathering developed into a riot at Robson and Thurlow Street. This happened after an accident involving one or more victims who fell through scaffolding related to construction of a building on the corner, and later spread to surrounding areas of downtown.[1][2] Total damage to the downtown core was estimated at $1.1 million CAD. Like other Robson and surrounding retailers, the then Eaton's department store had more than 50 of its storefront windows smashed.
That's a bit much. Their methods aren't effective, but their intentions are justified. A lot of corporate snuggling is going on this week, and Vancouver isn't going to see a dime of it, despite the fact that they've poured hundreds of millions into putting on the games. The obvious fact here is that Vancouver is one of the most socially aware cities in the world. Couple that with unprecedented homelessness and drug usage, you're going to have issues when the world's largest corporate circus moves in.
My point is is there anything to indicate that if the Olympics did not come that our government would sink millions of dollars to fix a problem that has been there for years? Would they not have addressed that by now? I agree the money would have been better spent on that issue, what I am saying is the government would not sink those dollars into it. THe corporate part I was not aware of.
I am absolutely disgusted by this. I have no tolerance for the destruction of property in Canada by protesters. Zero.
I think this might be the end of any further protests during the Olympics.
Police can now take an extremely hard line on this and insist that any protests occur at a designated spot only. Feel free to protest, but do so responsbily.
And perhaps consider protesting the protesters who are destroying property. They are causing more people to ignore your message than anything the government is doing.
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The 1994 Stanley Cup Riot occurred in Downtown Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, on the evening of June 14, 1994 and continued into the following morning. The riot arose after Game 7 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals in which the Vancouver Canucks lost to the New York Rangers.
After the NHL contest was concluded, 50,000 to 70,000 individuals reportedly converged upon Downtown Vancouver. What initially was a gathering developed into a riot at Robson and Thurlow Street. This happened after an accident involving one or more victims who fell through scaffolding related to construction of a building on the corner, and later spread to surrounding areas of downtown.[1][2] Total damage to the downtown core was estimated at $1.1 million CAD. Like other Robson and surrounding retailers, the then Eaton's department store had more than 50 of its storefront windows smashed.
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