Mentally disabled woman tortured to death, while pregnant

[pylon]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It would say humanity is humanity. Depends really how you define humanity. We can't take the humanity stance forever or we are going to destroy ourselves over it. At some point we have to step in and regulate reproduction or it's game over for us and everything else on the planet. That is the reality of the situation. You can preach all you want about our rights to reproduce but it won't do any of us any good if we are all dead as a race in 50 years.

Population control is not something I dispute. And it is something that will inevitably have to be looked at. As troubling as the system has proven to be in China, in theory, it is the only fair system. Where as all citizens, regardless of physicality, social status or beliefs, are limited to only one child.

However, when you start saying, they can't have children because they are dumb and ugly, but you can because you are perfect physical specimens both physically and genetically, then you are discriminating.

[CrusaderPi]

Holy crap Dissent, you've really come off the rails tonight.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by pylon

Population control is not something I dispute. And it is something that will inevitably have to be looked at. As troubling as the system has proven to be in China, in theory, it is the only fair system. Where as all citizens, regardless of physicality, social status or beliefs, are limited to only one child.

However, when you start saying, they can't have children because they are dumb and ugly, but you can because you are perfect physical specimens both physically and genetically, then you are discriminating.

Fair enough. I don't think if someone is ugly that has anything to do with it. I am saying if two mentally handicapped people that can't look after themselves like the one in the OP that was tragically murdered breed maybe we should be making sure they have birth control of some type.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Shouldn't you come up with something better that actually requires thought instead of throwing insults or are you not capable? I thought not. This a typical sheep post. Bawww...I can't think of an opinion so I have to insult to look popular and cool..bawww!

If you aren't smart enough to know that sheep go baaaaaa.... not bawww.... than you shouldn't be reproducing.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

Holy crap Dissent, you've really come off the rails tonight.

Not the first time, I guess I just have a different view then most and I try and post my reasoning why I think the way I do. Am I right? Maybe not, maybe so, it depends on an opinion. I don't mind people disagreeing with me like Photon who posts and debates really well. Posts like GreenTeas though are simply a waste, no thought process at all.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Look, I get it ok? Your one of these moral angels who thinks that everything is great with the human race and that everyone should have rights to do as they choose.

Actually I'm not. But thanks. I see International Relations in realist terms and laugh in the face of structural liberalism.


Oh and clearly the solution to using up the planets resources is to ditch Earth-that was and head out into space.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

If you aren't smart enough to know that sheep go baaaaaa.... not bawww.... than you shouldn't be reproducing.

Nice one, and you still have not posted anything thought provoking, what a surprise. We get it, your backing up the humanity stance, you look all cool now, you have got your popularity digs in even though you have no ability to debate anything. A sheep makes a sound that you perceive to hear, the fact that you posted what you just did I think shows what kind of intelligence I am dealing with. Keep posting your little thoughtless comments though, they are making you look like a champ!

[pylon]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Considering they cannot even comprehend dignity you do that.

By making such a blatanly ignorant statement, my guess is that your family has never been affected, or you have never had a friend that is developmentally delayed or mentally handicapped. Likely your only experience has been pointing and laughing, or bullying them.

You would be amazed at the level of comprehension, compassion and absolute passion for life that some of those people have. They also typically understand that they don't fit the norm, and would do anything to be like you or me.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Nice one, and you still have not posted anything thought provoking, what a surprise. We get it, your backing up the humanity stance, you look all cool now, you have got your popularity digs in even though you have no ability to debate anything. A sheep makes a sound that you perceive to hear, the fact that you posted what you just did I think shows what kind of intelligence I am dealing with. Keep posting your little thoughtless comments though, they are making you look like a champ!

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by pylon

By making such a blatanly ignorant statement, my guess is that your family has never been affected, or you have never had a friend that is developmentally delayed or mentally handicapped. Likely your only experience has been pointing and laughing, or bullying them.

You would be amazed at the level of comprehension, compassion and absolute passion for life that some of those people have. They also typically understand that they don't fit the norm, and would do anything to be like you or me.

On the contrary my statement was a compliment. I have volunteered my time at a horse riding ranch with the mentally handicapped and they don't give a lick about dignity, or pride, or greed, or any of the other selfish emotions that we normal people worry about. They simply live for the moment, they enjoy life, they are more pure and innocent then you or I could ever be. Unfortunately they are also very limited in a world that was not made with the intention of them. Dignity, that is just some cop out thing someone made up to make themselves feel better. If more of us thought more on helping others and forgiving others and doing the right thing and just living life for the pure pleasure of being alive instead of protecting our "dignity" the world would be a better place.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

On the contrary my statement was a compliment. I have volunteered my time at a horse riding ranch with the mentally handicapped and they don't give a lick about dignity, or pride, or greed, or any of the other selfish emotions that we normal people worry about. They simply live for the moment, they enjoy life, they are more pure and innocent then you or I could ever be. Unfortunately they are also very limited in a world that was not made with the intention of them. Dignity, that is just some cop out thing someone made up to make themselves feel better. If more of us thought more on helping others and forgiving others and doing the right thing and just living life for the pure pleasure of being alive instead of protecting our "dignity" the world would be a better place.

Whats the point? We're all dead in 50-100 years anyways.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Whats the point? We're all dead in 50-100 years anyways.

What part of doing the right thing did you miss there?

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

What part of doing the right thing did you miss there?

Why should I do the right thing? I've had it with your single minded sense of right and wrong. Who says I have have the same moral compass as you. I don't the value in doing what you consider 'right' when it is all a moot point as of December 2012.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

On the contrary my statement was a compliment. I have volunteered my time at a horse riding ranch with the mentally handicapped and they don't give a lick about dignity, or pride, or greed, or any of the other selfish emotions that we normal people worry about. They simply live for the moment, they enjoy life, they are more pure and innocent then you or I could ever be. Unfortunately they are also very limited in a world that was not made with the intention of them. Dignity, that is just some cop out thing someone made up to make themselves feel better. If more of us thought more on helping others and forgiving others and doing the right thing and just living life for the pure pleasure of being alive instead of protecting our "dignity" the world would be a better place.

Then perhaps we should be encouraging them to procreate in droves. It sounds like the world would be a much better place if we knocked our global IQ down 50 points or so.

[Berger_4_]

I find it interesting how dj_dummy has completely disappeared from the thread and now dissentowner is taking everything over.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Why should I do the right thing? I've had it with your single minded sense of right and wrong. Who says I have have the same moral compass as you. I don't the value in doing what you consider 'right' when it is all a moot point as of December 2012.

December 2012? hahahahaha! Please don't tell me you believe that rubbish?
Even if you follow the Mayan calender the dates we use don't even match up. I am talking about doing something right for future generations, not science fiction.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Berger_4_

I find it interesting how dj_dummy has completely disappeared from the thread and now dissentowner is taking everything over.

Look at the chaos that dj_dumbass has caused here. Maybe the poster that suggested he was a 4chan troll was on to something.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

December 2012? hahahahaha! Please don't tell me you believe that rubbish?
Even if you follow the Mayan calender the dates we use don't even match up. I am talking about doing something right for future generations, not science fiction.

You mean you don't believe it? Well then sir, you're severely mistaken. Buying into the propaganda like the other sheep. I pity you.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by pylon

Then perhaps we should be encouraging them to procreate in droves. It sounds like the world would be a much better place if we knocked our global IQ down 50 points or so.

I never stated that, I said that their perception of life is better then ours because they are not selfish like your average person is. Maybe if the majority of the human race took those extra 50 IQ points and used them to the benefit of the planet they lived on instead of making more money then we would be getting somewhere but that isn't the case. Society lives for what they can have for today and to hell with the repercussions of tomorrow.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

You mean you don't believe it? Well then sir, you're severely mistaken. Buying into the propaganda like the other sheep. I pity you.

I don't buy into propaganda, I buy into scientific facts.