My co-worker has been charged with murder

[Da_Chief]

Don't worry he'll be out in 5 years, our justice system is great, than you two can go for a coffee and laugh out loud about the whole thing.

[REDVAN]

I don't know any murderers, thank goodness.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by worth

There are 8 people in this thread that know someone who has murdered someone else out of around 35 posters. That's nearly 23% of people in here know someone who murdered someone. That seems a little high to me. Where do you guys hang out?

LOL! Heck, I know two.

I used to volunteer at the Y back home. My girlfriend was a manager there. We'd work with teenagers, try to keep them busy, out of trouble, etc.

One of the most popular kids, all the other ones liked him, he was one of our better helpers....killed his mother with a claw hammer because his father paid no attention to him. Glad he got along with me.

[Save Us Sutter]

Heck, I know three!

Same murder though. The guys beat up an old man outside a bar, but got off because he technically died when his head hit the pavement.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by Save Us Sutter

Heck, I know three!

Same murder though. The guys beat up an old man outside a bar, but got off because he technically died when his head hit the pavement.

He got off because of that? That doesn't make much sense. It would be like shooting someone and saying that they died from blood loss not your bullet.

[Knut]

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...s-killing.html

The Victim was a Co-worker of mine. A Real tough time around the office then.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by zukes

Wow, I live two - three blocks from the Radisson and this is the first I heard about this. Guess I should read the news more. Strange, small world that we live in that you know a guy who alledgedly murdered someone 3 blocks from me and we are 1000's of km's apart.

The strange thing is this guy worked all week in Calgary up to including Friday til 4:30 pm then out of the blue he left Calgary (nobody knew he was going) and traveled to London Ontario (don't know how he got there .... his truck, by air, or by bus) and then he met up with this girl in the Radisson Hotel on Sunday night and shot her.

Very strange.


P.S. The victim and the accused knew each other well.

[Cactus Jack]

Originally Posted by drewboy12

as sad as it is im sure he wont get served 25 years without parole...He should, but Canada's system sucks.

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Its pretty rare that anyone gets 25 years with no hope for parole in this country. He'll be out in less then a decade, its the Canadian way.

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Don't worry he'll be out in 5 years, our justice system is great, than you two can go for a coffee and laugh out loud about the whole thing.

Come on, now. It seems like many "developed" countries can be soft and protect criminals rights. What about the US and former NFLer Dante Stallworth? He committed vehicular manslaughter while drunk and was out of jail in about 30 days...

If you're going to point a finger, point it at all applicable parties and, in this case, nations.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Cactus Jack

Come on, now. It seems like many "developed" countries can be soft and protect criminals rights. What about the US and former NFLer Dante Stallworth? He committed vehicular manslaughter while drunk and was out of jail in about 30 days...

If you're going to point a finger, point it at all applicable parties and, in this case, nations.

Except I'm not comparing to the U.S. or any justice system, what my complaint is surrounds the fact that there doesn't seem to be a lot of common sense when it comes to crime and punishment, and there doesn't seem to be a lot of thought going towards victims rights or public safety.

Personally I don't care too much about how the U.S. courts define their sentencing requirements, thats their business. I'm more concerned with the design of the Canadian Justice System.

[Cactus Jack]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Except I'm not comparing to the U.S. or any justice system, what my complaint is surrounds the fact that there doesn't seem to be a lot of common sense when it comes to crime and punishment, and there doesn't seem to be a lot of thought going towards victims rights or public safety.

Personally I don't care too much about how the U.S. courts define their sentencing requirements, thats their business. I'm more concerned with the design of the Canadian Justice System.

I can respect that, I just took issue with it because I had the impression that you thought this was a Canadian thing.

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by REDVAN

I don't know any murderers, thank goodness.

I used to think that too, until my best friend of over 15 years murdered his girlfriend, then killed himself.

I grew up with the guy, went to school, traveled, talked to him everyday. No signs at all, never violent, very smart, sociable. Then he goes through a rough break up and it happened.

I never saw it coming, no one saw it coming. The police even said this was one of the strangest cases they ever saw, as some sort of sign is present at least to someone.

Bottom line, I learned not to make assumptions about anybody on anything. It could be in anyone given the right circumstance. When a person really snaps, all bets are off.

[Resolute 14]

If he is convicted of first degree murder, it is very unlikely that he will be out in less than 25 years. Depending on the evidence, his lawyer will be fighting hard to get that down to 2nd degree so that the sentence can be halved.

[Russic]

I've never known anybody that I'm aware of. A friend of mine in high school orchestrated a robbery once ... that's about as close to a criminal as I've gotten.

My best friend worked at a gym with a guy who killed somebody. a group of them got into a fight at a bar and afterwards the guy tried to jump in the moving vehicle to get at somebody for round two and ended up falling under the truck tire.

My wife had a friend growing up that witnessed her dad execute her mom and then kill himself.

[4X4]

Now you've ALL seen a murder.

[AC]

I went to elementary, junior high, and highschool with that guy who murdered someone with a pickaxe a few years ago. In fact, the murder took place at one of my best friend's neighbour's house.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by zukes

Wow, I live two - three blocks from the Radisson and this is the first I heard about this. Guess I should read the news more. Strange, small world that we live in that you know a guy who alledgedly murdered someone 3 blocks from me and we are 1000's of km's apart.

I knew the victim, went to school with her.

[lambeburger]

This murder a few years back: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...guilty-vu.html

I went to junior high with the victim, and the murderer used to coach my minor hockey team.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

I used to think that too, until my best friend of over 15 years murdered his girlfriend, then killed himself.

I grew up with the guy, went to school, traveled, talked to him everyday. No signs at all, never violent, very smart, sociable. Then he goes through a rough break up and it happened.

I never saw it coming, no one saw it coming. The police even said this was one of the strangest cases they ever saw, as some sort of sign is present at least to someone.

Bottom line, I learned not to make assumptions about anybody on anything. It could be in anyone given the right circumstance. When a person really snaps, all bets are off.

Isn't that the truth, many years ago my ex did some financial planning for a guy at 3pm, by 6pm his wife and 2 kids were dead.
Apparently he caught the wife with another man when he came home.

[dj_patm]

Originally Posted by AC

I went to elementary, junior high, and highschool with that guy who murdered someone with a pickaxe a few years ago. In fact, the murder took place at one of my best friend's neighbour's house.

Oh yeah. That was crazy. I knew a lot of people that were at or knew people that were at that party.

[alan21]

I was in junior high and a girl was murdered at home y her step brother and the guy tried to flee in his moms clothing. That was pretty shocking for a 13 year old.

Then when I was 18 I went away for vacation the summer after high school graduation. I come home and hear from my buddy that my childhood friend had been murdered outside of NYLA night club.