Mentally disabled woman tortured to death, while pregnant

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I'm not justifying it at all as a criminal act. I think what they did is morally repugnant and obviously they should be punished.

But what your seeing here is the same story that is repeated thousands of times going back to the first time that mankind figured out that a stick was a weapon.

I don't disagree that this story has been repeated thousands (perhaps millions) of times over back through history.

But it's a little different than 'the strong taking advantage of the weak' or figuring out a stick is a weapon.

Violence for gain, or even simple murder, makes a lot more sense in our human traits than continual torture. You have to be some kind of messed up to torture a person especially for a long period of time.

So it's not really the same as other violent acts, or 'taking advantage'.

However, sadly, I do believe that this is more common than we'd like to admit, as I believe was your basic point.

[dj_patm]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

No just forced sterilization.

Fine, call it that if you want.
You still have yet to say why you disagree but okay.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by dj_patm

Fine, call it that if you want.
You still have yet to say why you disagree but okay.

I think the reasons for disagreeing go without saying.

[Berger_4_]

I don't think we need to say why we disagree, due to the fact that it's pretty damn obvious. How can you say deciding who gets to reproduce is a good idea? That's something that would maybe fly in Commie-ville but in the free world...not so much.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by dj_patm

I didn't read the full article but my first question is why did someone let a mentally disabled person get pregnant?

Thats just stupid.

If there is one thing that shouldn't be allowed its having kids if you have a serious genetic disability.

Your a genetic disability.

So I guess its safe to assume you won't be pro creating either.

Do you even think before you type stuff?

[dj_patm]

Originally Posted by Berger_4_

I don't think we need to say why we disagree, due to the fact that it's pretty damn obvious. How can you say deciding who gets to reproduce is a good idea? That's something that would maybe fly in Commie-ville but in the free world...not so much.

Yeah it's so crazy saying that people with severe genetic disabilities shouldn't have kids as they will most likely have severe genetic disabilities.

I'm not talking about people with slight problems. I'm talking about the fully incapable to live by themselves people.

Commie? It's common sense.

[CaptainCrunch]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

Canada
In Canada, the eugenics movement gained support early in the 20th century as prominent physicians drew a direct link between heredity and public health.[88] Eugenics was enforced by law in two Canadian provinces. In Alberta, the Sexual Sterilization Act was enacted in 1928, focusing the movement on the sterilization of mentally deficient individuals, as determined by the Alberta Eugenics Board.[89] The campaign to enforce this action was backed by groups such as the United Farm Women's Group, including key member Emily Murphy.[90]
Individuals were assessed using IQ tests like the Stanford-Binet. This posed a problem to new immigrants arriving in Canada, as many had not mastered the English language, and often their scores denoted them as having impaired intellectual functioning. As a result, many of those sterilized under the Sexual Sterilization Act were immigrants who were unfairly categorized.[91] The province of British Columbia enacted its own Sexual Sterilization Act in 1933. As in Alberta, the British Columbia Eugenics Board could recommend the sterilization of those it considered to be suffering from "mental disease or mental deficiency."[92]
The popularity of the eugenics movement peaked during the Depression when sterilization was widely seen as a way of relieving society of the financial burdens imposed by defective individuals.[93] Although the eugenics excesses of Nazi Germany diminished the popularity of the eugenics movement, the Sexual Sterilization Acts of Alberta and British Columbia were not repealed until 1972.[94]

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by dj_patm

Yeah it's so crazy saying that people with severe genetic disabilities shouldn't have kids as they will most likely have severe genetic disabilities.

I'm not talking about people with slight problems. I'm talking about the fully incapable to live by themselves people.

Commie? It's common sense.

Do you know how you sound?

[HPLovecraft]

Everyone knows how he sounds except for himself. That's the sad part.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Do you know how you sound?

Dood, he's a DJ. If he can still hear anything at all, I bet it sounds like

thump-st-thump-st-thump-st-thump-st
booooooooooooossssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
"ecstacy!!!!!!"


(and repeat)

[Berger_4_]

Originally Posted by dj_patm

Yeah it's so crazy saying that people with severe genetic disabilities shouldn't have kids as they will most likely have severe genetic disabilities.

I'm not talking about people with slight problems. I'm talking about the fully incapable to live by themselves people.

Commie? It's common sense.

Perhaps your parents should have been sterilized before you came along.

If a person is completely incapable of living by themselves, what are the chances they'll reproduce anyways? It's not like their care giver is going to take them out so they can bone or anything. To advocate forced sterilization is a tad bit more than overkill though.

[frinkprof]

Originally Posted by 4X4

So what's the Final Solution? Sterilization?

Fixed.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by dj_patm

I didn't read the full article but my first question is why did someone let a mentally disabled person get pregnant?

Thats just stupid.

If there is one thing that shouldn't be allowed its having kids if you have a serious genetic disability.

wow..really proving that you aren't CP's village idiot. Another quality post!

[Huntingwhale]

[dj_patm]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Do you know how you sound?

So you're saying that someone that has to be taken care of full time and lives under supervision should be allowed to have children?

That is dumb.

There is almost a 100% full guarantee that the child will have terrible and painful side effects that go along with there severly decreased quality of life and you want that?

thats just a-okay?

I'm the crazy one...

[transplant99]

Why would you let someone have kids when there's an extremely high chance that the kid would have the same condition.

Oh i dunno...basic human rights maybe?

[JFK]

Originally Posted by dj_patm

So you're saying that someone that has to be taken care of full time and lives under supervision should be allowed to have children?

When would the opportunity arise for this person to have sex?

[Flames_Gimp]

my GF and I were planning on having kids, but i'm confined to a wheelchair.

whew thanks dj_patm dodged a (gimp-baby) bullet there

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by dj_patm

So you're saying that someone that has to be taken care of full time and lives under supervision should be allowed to have children?

That is dumb.

There is almost a 100% full guarantee that the child will have terrible and painful side effects that go along with there severly decreased quality of life and you want that?

thats just a-okay?

I'm the crazy one...

Who are you say what someone can and can't do. Is someone with a disability less human than you are.

Are you trying to propagate the Master Race? Autotuner was just the first step.

[dj_patm]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Oh i dunno...basic human rights maybe?

Rights are Rights until they start having dramatic and seriously negative consequences on another humans life.