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Old 01-27-2010, 05:24 PM   #41
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My Predictions for 2009 BP (nominations):

* District 9
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The Hurt Locker
Inglorious Basterds
Precious
Up in the Air
Invictus
Nine
An Education
The Blind Side
A Single Man

* District 9 was the "Best Motion Picture" (IMHO) of 2009. I have a feeling it will not even receive a Nomination.









FTR: 10 Nominations for BP is just foolish IMHO.

Movies that should not be Nominated:

Avatar
Inglorious Basterds
Up in the Air
The Blind Side
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Nine
Hells for District 9. That and Inglourious Basterds were the best movies of 2009 IMO.

If Avatar wins, the Oscars have lost all credibility.
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Old 01-27-2010, 05:27 PM   #42
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The Oscars had credibility?
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Yeah, because Forrest Gump sucked so much.
its not that gump sucked, most other years it would have been a worthy winner

but when the greatest movie of all time doesn't win the best movie of 1 year, there is a problem
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its not that gump sucked, most other years it would have been a worthy winner

but when the greatest movie of all time doesn't win the best movie of 1 year, there is a problem
Thank God I can't get smote for this. But after all the build up, when I finally saw Shawshank I was let down.
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Yeah, because Forrest Gump sucked so much.
it didn't suck, but Pulp Fiction and Shawshank are two of the greatest.
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^ "The Shawshank Redemption" is in my top 3.
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it didn't suck, but Pulp Fiction and Shawshank are two of the greatest.
Yeah, but I bet you were glad that Traffic beat Gladiator.
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Moon was the best movie I saw in 2009.

Too bad it only got a limited release in theatres.
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:12 PM   #49
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I loved Moon as well, Hurt Locker was good just not best picture quality.

I loved Disney's Up! and of course The Hangover, when will the Oscars award top comedy films considering how hard it is to make a great comedy.

But yeah District 9 for me was the blow me away film of which I expected nothing, Avatar should win lots of awards just not as best film.
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I still need to see Moon.
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Old 01-28-2010, 12:24 AM   #51
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I don't get people questioning the credibility of the Academy. The Academy is made up of different directors, actors, writers, producers, visual effects pros and so on. It's made of people that are you know, in movies. People who have studied the art of making film and they know what goes into making these kinds of films. I'll take their opinion over any critic or CP poster anyday.

Sure, there's gonna be stuff you disagree with and that's fine. Not every movie is made for everybody. Not every movie floats your boat. But people who say the Academy is wrong and get all pissy because something didn't win or wasn't nominated is just funny. Like you know better people. Come on.

Having said all that......At the end of the day, it's subjective. THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG!!!



Inglorious probably gets my vote, but I haven't seen all the favorites yet. I always see the 5 nominees before the awards, but now that there's 10, I don't know if Im gonna be able to.
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No love for Star Trek?

Personally I rate it above both Avatar and Disctrict 9 (close). Star Trek did not contain some message about caring about the enviroment, or immigration/human rights. It did however re-establish a near dead franchise into an epic film. Abrams did a fantastic job developing the characters, and aside from a few physics flaws I thought it was the perfect action film.

And if Inglorious Basterds had the best beginning for a film this year, Star Trek was damn close. Marvel cast the guy who played George Kirk off that seen alone into the role of "Thor". I don't even like the television series, but I loved the movie.

Before you say it's a film for nerds, and just "some action film", please just refer to the tomato meter. Avatar received an 82% score, District 9 90%, and Star Trek was one of the top 10 reviewed movies of the year at 94%.

Also Chris Pine did a much better job as Kirk than Sam Worthigton as Jake Sully.

Oh, and why Nine will get a nomination is beyond me. I am the biggest Daniel Day Lewis fan I know, and even he was pretty mediocre in that movie. The critics hated it, movie goers hated it, and I am sure Lewis will hate it someday. I really wish the Academy wouldn't give out nominations based on name value alone.
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LOL Star Trek was friggin AWFUL.
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I think I'm the only person who hated District 9. I am also probably the only person on earth that has yet to see Avatar.

My faves this year pretty much fall in line: Inglorious Basterds was the best with The Hurt Locker a close second and Star Trek third. I also loved the Hangover and I hope it get's nominated.

I enjoyed (500) days, but I don't think it's acadamy awards material. Same with Up in the Air. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed it, and the gut punch at the end was unbelievable, but I did't think those two are overly memorable.

I still have to see Moon.
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I don't get people questioning the credibility of the Academy. The Academy is made up of different directors, actors, writers, producers, visual effects pros and so on. It's made of people that are you know, in movies. People who have studied the art of making film and they know what goes into making these kinds of films. I'll take their opinion over any critic or CP poster anyday.

Sure, there's gonna be stuff you disagree with and that's fine. Not every movie is made for everybody. Not every movie floats your boat. But people who say the Academy is wrong and get all pissy because something didn't win or wasn't nominated is just funny. Like you know better people. Come on.

Having said all that......At the end of the day, it's subjective. THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG!!!



Inglorious probably gets my vote, but I haven't seen all the favorites yet. I always see the 5 nominees before the awards, but now that there's 10, I don't know if Im gonna be able to.
I don't think you can really say that we should put all our trust in the Academy, simply because they make movies and we don't. And I certainly don't think you can say that it's because they've studied the 'art of filmmaking.' The bulk of academy members are actors - a very large portion of whom have never studied film, nor even have a realistic idea of the process (beyond that which they are directly involved in, of course.)

I think that is why Best Picture always causes so much exasperation... It is the only award that all member of the academy votes for (as each other category is voted on by its constitutive members). So you get Actors, Sound Engineers, Visual Effects people, Hair & Make-Up, Executives, etc., all of whom are voting with different criteria in mind for what makes a film 'great.' And that is usually the crux of most people's complaint about the award - the only films that have a chance are films are the most centric, which appeal to the broadest possible audience.

That's why the BP race is always so easily swayed by marketing campaigns, which essentially tell members how to vote; and why films with short-term emotional appeal usually do better than films which are a bit more 'intellectual' (or whatever you want to call it) - I mean by this films which take longer to gestate; which are more emotionally complex, and which affect you in different ways, and over longer periods of time.

Thus, year after year we get picks which are absolutely vanilla. Outside of 2007 - which was, in my mind, one of the best years in film of the last 30 years - the closest the Academy has come to doing anything remotely interesting with the Best Picture Oscar over the last 20 years was almost giving it to Pulp Fiction.
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I saw District 9 recently - after hearing all the hype. I was not blown away, personally, and would be shocked if it came anywhere near a BP win (it may not even be nomination worthy, at least to me).

I saw Avatar earlier than most, and only once, in a 3D IMAX theater. That movie I was blown away by. We all realize the storyline has room for improvement, but the immersiveness was flat out incredible. Part of me logically wants to discredit this movie's appeal due to some of the "hokus pokus" therein, but for me, the draw was/is undeniable. This may not be an epic classic you throw in your DVD player every year for the memories, but the visual draw in theaters in unlike anything I've ever seen. It truly is revolutionary.

Now, does that make Avatar worthy of a BP win? Not necessarily. I would say it certainly does not fit the traditional BP-winner mould, and in almost any other year, probably wouldn't stand much of a chance when put up to the critical scrutiny of the Academy.

I'm still hoping to see Moon and Inglorious Basterds.
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don't they nominate 10 now?
ahaha. I had no idea you were serious.

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ahaha. I had no idea you were serious.
Why was it snubbed? It was nominated for Best Picture, I think Best Director, and Supporting Actor. I could be missing some too, I don't know.

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Why was it snubbed? It was nominated for Best Picture, I think Best Director, and Supporting Actor. I could be missing some too, I don't know.

Never mind, you edited.
Ya, I'm losin it... just skimmed the list and missed it.
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I already can't watch the Oscars, but if Inglorious Basterds was one of the "best of 09" then I saw far too many movies last year. I've never been a big QT fan, and "Basterds" was given to me to watch by a friend that told me it would make me want to host a QT movie marathon the next weekend and it just didn't do it for me. Hurt Locker wasn't anything near a top movie either.
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