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		|  01-29-2010, 04:17 PM | #21 |  
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			Is this thread from 1994? Didn't even know NIN was still around.
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		|  01-29-2010, 04:20 PM | #22 |  
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					Originally Posted by Table 5  Is this thread from 1994? Didn't even know NIN was still around. |  
I think they are but they're still recycling the same old emo crap albeit with a new name.
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			You can't judge NIN on the basis of one particular song.  For the most part, Reznor created albums rather than compilations of singles, so you generally have to listen to the whole album to get the whole effect (not the case for Pretty Hate Machine, but likely the case for every album since).  
 You also can't judge NIN on the basis of one particular album, as they are some distinct differences between the approaches taken with his major successes.  Pretty Hate Machine is raw, simple, but was innovative at the time it was released.  Downward Spiral is complex, completely groundbreaking when it was released, and just generally brilliant.  The Fragile is a complete range of sounds, and is largely instrumental, with very few tracks appropriate as singles.
 
 A lot of people now do what Reznor did, or have adapted his innovations into their own work.  To someone listening to NIN now, it may be hard to understand what the big deal is, but if you listened to NIN back when he was about the only guy doing what he was doing, you'd have a different appreciation for him.  I think the Downward Spiral is a masterpiece album, but if you listened to it for the first time today, you might think it sounds the same as lots of other stuff.  But that's only because other artists have built upon what he started.
 
 If you do like NIN, but wish it sounded just a bit more evil, PIG is another fantastic industrial artist.
 
 Of course, if you want something a bit more evil-sounding, and a bit more maintstream, there's always Rammstein (if yelling in German can be considered "mainstream").
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			NIN are excellent in my opinion. One of my favourite bands. To compare them to Nickelback in front of me would get you shot. 
 Lady Gaga isn't bad if pop is your thing. Different strokes for different folks I say. Not everyone likes the same music.
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		|  01-29-2010, 04:27 PM | #25 |  
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					Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp  I've never heard Springsteen running around, like a chicken with it's head cut off, telling everyone how cool and innovative he is because of how he's distributing his music. |  
Well, you can dislike how he's choosing to spread the message - I won't get into that... I just think it's a good message and should be spread.
 
Another example then...  Obama is saying how good of an idea universal health care would be.  Obviously, he's not the first one to come up with the idea.  Is Obama a poser not inventing universal health care but still having the gall to talk about it's virtues?
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			I haven't listened to NIN in a long time, but The Downward Spiral spent a significant amount of time in my CD player in Jr High.  It was a REALLY nice change in sounds from a billion and one Nirvana clones at the time.
 I pulled the chute when The Perfect Drug was released.
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					Originally Posted by Phaneuf3  Well, you can dislike how he's choosing to spread the message - I won't get into that... I just think it's a good message and should be spread.
 Another example then...  Obama is saying how good of an idea universal health care would be.  Obviously, he's not the first one to come up with the idea.  Is Obama a poser not inventing universal health care but still having the gall to talk about it's virtues?
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No, it makes him a dirty, evil socialist
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			NIN is awesome....
 who brought Radiohead into this thread? they don't  deserve to be mentioned in the same dimension as NIN.
 
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					Originally Posted by Kryzsky  Reznor is musical genius, I would put him right up there with Bowie in the songwriting department. The sonic artistry is another thing altogether, one of the most incredible musicians of the 90s.
 The Fragile is actually my favorite relase of his, have listened to those albums countless time. Brilliant.
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					Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp  I think they are but they're still recycling the same old emo crap albeit with a new name. |  
wow. just wow. the ignorance in this thread
		 
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					Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp  wow. just wow. the ignorance in this thread |  
Smite!
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			I'm waiting for the techno meatheads to come out and say Skinny Puppy is better then NIN.   I don't care if you don't like the music, watch a concert of his and say he doesnt entertain.
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			NIN isn't very good, I much prefer Michael Buble.
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			How long can NIN play the angry young man card?  Reznor is damn near 45 now, but he's still projecting 'the image'?  
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			They had a brief period of time where they were pretty good, but most of their stuff sounds too contrived.
		 
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			NIN - With Teeth is one of my favourite albums.  I mostly like Radiohead, Johnny Cash, The Beatles, Springsteen, Brian Wilson... I seriously don't understand some of the comments in this thread... utterly strange.  
 Maybe they're not the greatest band of all time, but to compare them to Nickleback seems like a pretty low-blow.
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					Originally Posted by Table 5  Is this thread from 1994? Didn't even know NIN was still around. |  
Have you listened to the radio since 1994?  They've certainly been around.... curious.
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					Originally Posted by Agamemnon  NIN - With Teeth is one of my favourite albums. I mostly like Radiohead, Johnny Cash, The Beatles, Springsteen, Brian Wilson... I seriously don't understand some of the comments in this thread... utterly strange. 
 Maybe they're not the greatest band of all time, but to compare them to Nickleback seems like a pretty low-blow.
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Well to be fair, he said they're like Nickleback, but different.
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					Originally Posted by flameswin  Well to be fair, he said they're like Nickleback, but different. |  
Yes... that's how I read it.
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					Originally Posted by Agamemnon  Yes... that's how I read it. |  
Well I smite have to elabrote a bit. They don't suck like Nickleback, they just use a familiar forumla and stick with it like Nickleback.
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