Suppliments

[dissentowner]

[QUOTE=worth;2290803]Perhaps supplements wasn't the correct word to use in this topic. I basically used it as an overall arching term of items you put in your mouth other than regular food and fotze's mom.[QUOTE]

Pure Gold!

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Also, the biggest thing really is not supplements, it's diet. Cut all the crap out and eat lean meats, munch on veggies for a snack. Give yourself a cheat day once every two weeks so you don't go insane but otherwise stick to a healthy diet. 75% of getting to where you want to be is diet.

Hell, you can give yourself a cheat day once or twice a week depending on how strict you are during the week. I tend to be really healthy during the week and hit the gym 3-5 times, but then I also drink like a fish on Saturday and Sunday. It probably hinders my results but I keep in good shape.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by TheSutterDynasty

As I mentioned, but I'm sure you ignored, it's literally unhealthy if I lose any more fat. Most hockey players have a surprisingly high body fat, since added weight to your frame will help balance and your sturdiness on the puck. And goalies tend to be much more "out of shape" in regards to body fat.

lol.

no they don't. please try again.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by TheSutterDynasty

Creatine is an ergogenic aid (bodybuilding supplement).

lol.

Creatine is a natural substance found in our body.

Try again.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by worth

Thanks for the tips daaznfob. I will look at making my own.

What else do you guys use during the day? Basaically right now i'm on:

1x protein shake (whey protein powder, yogurt, frozen blueberries, milk)

I take that shake to work because at around 4 or so I get hungry again. I eat about 5-6 times a day and by 4pm i need something again because I will start working out at around 5pm or so.

1x recovery drink (endurox)

recently i've been taking the endurox during workouts because I find myself sometimes not having enough calories in my system to push myself. I'm definietley not taking in enough during the day.

My basic diet looks like this:

6am: Cereal/oatmeal
9:30am: Banana, granola bar, rice crackers
12:00pm: sandwich, yogurt, vegtable, fruit
2:30pm: vector energy bar, 2x vegtable
4:00pm: protein shake
5:00pm: workout
7:00pm: dinner (I eat quite a bit of chicken breast or white fish)

I need something more because this is not enough. I'm maintaining my weight, but I could stand to put on pounds. It's not like i'm huge anyway. I'm around 140lbs right now, 5'8".

Anything additional you can suggest?

i just don't know how you're getting enough calories/protien in your system.

Your 6 meals are great though. Is dinner IMMEDIATELY after your workout?
I try to get a high calorie/protien protein shake or weight gainer within 20 mins of my workout.

I also take a slow metabolizing meal in before sleeping to help during sleep time.

I workout in the morning, which makes eating a bit easier throughout the day and fitting in 2 protien shakes.

I have been using the "super pump" preworkout powder, and it DEFINITELY provides a lot of energy and pump during the workout.

[3 Justin 3]

What does Creatine do anyway? Is it for pre-workout, or after-workout?

[Komskies]

Creatine is a steroids omg don't take them or you're muscles will expload.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

What does Creatine do anyway? Is it for pre-workout, or after-workout?

I use it in both situations. It's for muscle repair and it noticeably helps with soreness and also appears to give you better gains after a gym session.

[worth]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

i just don't know how you're getting enough calories/protien in your system.

Your 6 meals are great though. Is dinner IMMEDIATELY after your workout?
I try to get a high calorie/protien protein shake or weight gainer within 20 mins of my workout.

I also take a slow metabolizing meal in before sleeping to help during sleep time.

I workout in the morning, which makes eating a bit easier throughout the day and fitting in 2 protien shakes.

I have been using the "super pump" preworkout powder, and it DEFINITELY provides a lot of energy and pump during the workout.

I'm not getting enough. I'm usually hungry by about 8am or so. And I'm usually hungry before I go to bed.

My dinner is probably 45 min - 1hr after the workout. I workout at home. I usually jump in the shower right after and then I have to cook myself dinner. So it takes a bit of time, unless I have some leftovers or something.

I was drinking coffee in the mornings, I think that was offsetting some of the hunger. When I don't drink coffee, I'm noticeably hungrier. I need to get some extra items into my daily diet to boost up the number of calories. After dinner I'm usually scrounging around in the cupboards to find something. Not good.

I would like to work out in the morning, but I'm at work at 6:30, and I don't really want to get up at 4:30 to work out. I'd have to go to bed at like 8:30pm.

I'm usually in bed at 10pm anyway, so I don't know if there is enough time for another meal before bed after my dinner. maybe something small, but I don't want to be digesting food while I try to sleep.

[TheSutterDynasty]

Originally Posted by Azure

lol.

no they don't. please try again.

I present to you this thread.

Originally Posted by Azure

lol.

Creatine is a natural substance found in our body.

Try again.

No sh*t sherlock. Creatine supplements are ergogenic aids.

I've done some searching and managed to find a picture of Azure posting his weight loss and diet advice on CP.



Or is that a picture of greenteafrapp? I forget.

[TheSutterDynasty]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

I use it in both situations. It's for muscle repair and it noticeably helps with soreness and also appears to give you better gains after a gym session.

No, it most certainly does not.

Just use friggin' wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creatine_supplements

[Azure]

All 3 of those guys have a low body fat. Kane especially I would say is below 10%.

Try again? Maybe some more pictures would work.

[TheSutterDynasty]

Originally Posted by Azure

All 3 of those guys have a low body fat. Kane especially I would say is below 10%.

Try again? Maybe some more pictures would work.

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

The first photo doesnt look like Kane at all. Looks a little flabby to be a pro athlete.

You're so pathetic, Azure. I've completely dismantled most of the junk you've spewed about nutrition and you've chalked it up to a government conspiracy and conviently dissapeared from the threads.

But please, keep trying to pick out any little thing I say with one sentence posts.

[wooohooo]

Holy are you guys ever feisty...

Let's just eat right and not call anyone fat or stringbeans

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by TheSutterDynasty

You're so pathetic, Azure. I've completely dismantled most of the junk you've spewed about nutrition and you've chalked it up to a government conspiracy and conviently dissapeared from the threads.

But please, keep trying to pick out any little thing I say with one sentence posts.

To be fair to Azure, you did make the statement that most pro hockey players have a supprisingly high body fat %, do you have anything to back that up other than pictures of 2 pro hockey players, who actually look to be in pretty decent shape.

[3 Justin 3]

I was the stringbean.

So should creatine be used after workouts? I heard it gives extra "boost" before which makes you pump harder. I should try both before and after and see what works best.

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

I was the stringbean.

So should creatine be used after workouts? I heard it gives extra "boost" before which makes you pump harder. I should try both before and after and see what works best.

If I was you I wouldn't use anything like creatine. Focus on finding an exercise routine that you enjoy and will continue. All the supplements in the world will do jack all if you don't actually exercise safely and properly. The only thing I personally do is take a shot of whey protein (~20g) immediately following a work out. That's it.

Also, contrary to popular belief, not all guys that lift weights want to "get huge". My body type is more like yours (5'10" and probably 140lbs right now) but I'm only interested in putting on maybe 10 or 15 lbs more weight. I'm into rock climbing and big, bulky muscles typically equal big fail for this activity. I don't care if my body is considered scrawny. If people saw me monkeying up a rock face they might change their tune on what the definition of strong is.

[Azure]

In regards to the creatine, I use it when I'm trying to hit a new 1RM every single week and need all the extra help I can get.

Otherwise? The normal guy isn't really going to notice a difference.

It does help with playing hockey though. Its actually amazing how much difference it can make.

[Tron_fdc]

I'm curious, how would creatine help with hockey? I play 3 or 4 days a week, so I would be interested to hear about it.

[kevman]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

Also, contrary to popular belief, not all guys that lift weights want to "get huge".

They don't?!?! This thread could of fooled me...6'1", 185lbs, scrawny? Haha what?

But then again, I've never taken a supplement in my life so what do I know? Apart from chocolate milk that is...

Did you know "Milk 2 Go" has extra sodium in it to help it keep longer? Protein, Sugar & Electrolytes...is there a better drink for sport? Mmmm Milk!

+1 for sport specific training! We're apparently in the minority...