I'm a huge Conan fan and think Jay can be a little too vanilla(which is too bad, because away from his talk shows he seems like a really witty guy), but I've always kinda liked Leno. He seems like a decent guy, I've always preferred him to Letterman. I think he's a little to blame for this mess, but I put the vast, vast majority of it on NBC's bungling.
Leno didn't want to lose his Tonight Show in the first place when they came up with that 5 year plan back in '04, that was all NBC's doing. So I find it hard to put too much blame on him for simply wanting his show back which he never wanted to give up in the first place. I actually kinda feel bad for the guy, as he's been painted as the villain through all this mess, when in actuality it should be Zucker and the suits at the top floor of 30 Rock who should be getting burned at the stake for their severe mis-management.
I've always been an NBC backer for some reason, but after seeing this whole mess play out, is there any wonder why they're in last place?
I think it shows that the thing most important to both of them is just making sure that all the people who work for their shows didn't lose their jobs. Conan has said that he wouldn't agree to a deal where all his staffers didnt get severance packages (even the janitor) and from that video it seems that Jay didn't want 150 people to lose jobs.
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Tonight Show should be interesting today with Tom Hanks aka the originator of "Coco". Does anyone know if he's going till the end of the week, or could it end whenever they sign the papers?
Something tells me this is his last week. I checked NBC.com yesterday to see who was scheduled this week. Wed-Fri had TBA. I get the sense that the people behind booking the guests for Conan are working to get his ideal exit as far as guests go in order.
A quick check of the website has no update.
As for the Leno clip, a find two things interesting. I'm glad he told his side of the story as I think he's being unfairly bashed in all of this. He doesn't want to give up his job, and NBC won't let him out of his contract. What's a guy to do? This is a matter of suits making dumbass decisions, and then making even dumber decisions to fix the original dumbass decisions.
The other thing is that even though Letterman has been taking shots at Jay, the intern jokes are completely uneccessary IMO. Yeah, he did it, he admitted to it on air, and the waves calmed down, and the world continued to spin. Jay got his shots in at the time, and that was that. Now that Letterman is taking shots at something current, Leno is pulling the who "yeah, well you did this...". Bush League, IMO.
It's making for entertaining TV, but we all know that in 3 months, no one will give a crap.
Something tells me this is his last week. I checked NBC.com yesterday to see who was scheduled this week. Wed-Fri had TBA. I get the sense that the people behind booking the guests for Conan are working to get his ideal exit as far as guests go in order.
A quick check of the website has no update.
As for the Leno clip, a find two things interesting. I'm glad he told his side of the story as I think he's being unfairly bashed in all of this. He doesn't want to give up his job, and NBC won't let him out of his contract. What's a guy to do? This is a matter of suits making dumbass decisions, and then making even dumber decisions to fix the original dumbass decisions.
The other thing is that even though Letterman has been taking shots at Jay, the intern jokes are completely uneccessary IMO. Yeah, he did it, he admitted to it on air, and the waves calmed down, and the world continued to spin. Jay got his shots in at the time, and that was that. Now that Letterman is taking shots at something current, Leno is pulling the who "yeah, well you did this...". Bush League, IMO.
It's making for entertaining TV, but we all know that in 3 months, no one will give a crap.
Letterman has made jokes about other celebrities and their infidelities and stuff like that, I think he opened him up to those in all honesty
And NBC said Conan was going on vacation after this week anyway (they said this a few weeks ago), so I think they are just using it as a time to end the show.
Letterman has made jokes about other celebrities and their infidelities and stuff like that, I think he opened him up to those in all honesty.
Fair... to a point. You can't argue what Dave has done. Pot, kettle, black. I get that. But he's owned up to it, and I'm sure he has expected the backlash, as little as it was, from fans and the media.
But, that was back in October. Jokes about that, had they continued, would surely be stale by now. And Letterman is more due to give Leno the gears, IMO, due to their past. Letterman had Leno on his show many times when he was with NBC. Leno's actions to originally get the Tonight Show, while are legendary business moves, are hardly what I would consider sane, or on the moral side of the scale. Letterman is better off for it as far as I'm concerned, but still, I think Jay is reaching here.
It just reminds me of being a kid, and anytime I would get in trouble, it was perfect timing to rat my brother out on something.
Tonight Show should be interesting today with Tom Hanks aka the originator of "Coco". Does anyone know if he's going till the end of the week, or could it end whenever they sign the papers?
Ya I should elaborate. He didn't start it, but he's the one who popularized it. He was a guest on Conan's 2nd ever Tonight Show and kept calling him that. It kinda took off after that.
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basically saying its not a sure thing, creative people at the network want it, executives and the individual stations (Fox only owns 17 of 204) still need some convincing because the simpsons/seinfeld reruns they are running now make a good amount of money
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