Alberta declines to donate to Haiti recovery yesterday; Now Donates 500 Grand Today

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

I love the it doesnt affect me why should I care people. When tragedy strikes them they'll wish someone cared about them.

..and for the record.........if tragedy strikes here I am not going to be mad at Haiti for not donating to help us..

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

..and for the record.........if tragedy strikes here I am not going to be mad at Haiti for not donating to help us..

You live in a 1st world country, I dont think we would need the 3rd world countries help if disaster struck here. I feel stupid arguing with you since its probably racial why you could care less.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

..and for the record.........if tragedy strikes here I am not going to be mad at Haiti for not donating to help us..

Haiti was a mess even before the recent earthquakes. But I'm sure you assumed it was a sweet vacation spot like the other nation that shares Hispaniola with Haiti. And of the record The Dominican Republic isn't without its issues either.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

You live in a 1st world country, I dont think we would need the 3rd world countries help if disaster struck here. I feel stupid arguing with you since its probably racial why you could care less.

You should feel even more stupid for assuming I am racist....

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Haiti was a mess even before the recent earthquakes. But I'm sure you assumed it was a sweet vacation spot like the other nation that shares Hispaniola with Haiti. And of the record The Dominican Republic isn't without its issues either.

I am aware of the corruption, crime, drugs etc. in Haiti. It has been a nasty place for a long time...

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by Komskies

We'd be better off donating clean drinking water than donating money.

Canada sent our disaster recovery team which includes some pretty advanced water purification tech so I would assume that we are already helping with getting people clean water.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

You should feel even more stupid for assuming I am racist....

I apologize then, unfortunately your username implies certain traits

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I am aware of the corruption, crime, drugs etc. in Haiti. It has been a nasty place for a long time...

Yup. People resort to drastic measures after their country is pillaged by Europeans for decades. They done gone and messed up them coloreds good.

[GGG]

I support the Alberta Government decision not to donate.

1) International diplomacy, aid, food programs, Military involvement are the responsibility of the Federal government. Therefore any government sponsered aid should becoming from the federal level

2) This is not the governments money that it is spending. It is each individual persons money sent to the government to spend on our behalf. Therefore wherever possible citizens should be directing where the dollars go especially when it is outside the general scope of the governments responsibilities.

3) The Alberta government indirectly subsidizes every persons individual donation when it comes to income tax. You will get (i Think) 10% of your donation money back.

4) The federal government (again out tax dollars) has already agreed to match any donations made by canadians on top of giving you a tax deduction (I believe 15%).

In summary, the alberta government should not be driving tax dollars going towards aid individual citizens should be driving the tax dollars toward aid. Right now this is already occuring. For ever 1$ you donate the various levels of government will donate $1.25 of your tax dollars toward relief.

To me that is a good use of our tax dollars because it is driven by individual donations and not by Public Relations. In fact I commend Stelmach for not trying to look good in the media with our tax dollars.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

You should feel even more stupid for assuming I am racist....

Well you have made qasi homophobic comments in the past, so it wasn't much of a leap.

[RedHot25]

Provinces and territories donating directly to relief efforts in Haiti
Yukon: $25,000
British Columbia: $500,000
Manitoba: $100,000
Ontario: $1 million
Nova Scotia: $100,000
New Brunswick: $100,000
Prince Edward Island: $50,000
Newfoundland and Labrador: $1 million

[Byrns]

Originally Posted by RedHot25

Provinces and territories donating directly to relief efforts in Haiti
Yukon: $25,000
British Columbia: $500,000
Manitoba: $100,000
Ontario: $1 million
Nova Scotia: $100,000
New Brunswick: $100,000
Prince Edward Island: $50,000
Newfoundland and Labrador: $1 million

Surprising that Quebec is cheapening out since most Haitian born Canadians live there.

[mykalberta]

I have no problem with it. Alberta is part of the country of Canada, we pay Federal taxes and the Federal goverment should be dolling out stuff like this, not individual provinces/states/cities etc unless you have a direct connection to the area.

Tsunami was different as that was a marketing decision as well as alot Albertans having relatives there. I would be surprised if there were more than 10000 people in Alberta who were directly affected by this in a meaningful way.

[FlamesAddiction]

It's hard to imagine that Alberta couldn't even match Manitoba.

From the non-altruistic perspective, giving aid is also great advertisement. If Alberta sends aid, people in power will remember and it will make it easier to do business there in the future. All the aid money that Canada and the U.S. gives to poorer counties isn't just to help them out.

[CaptainCrunch]

To me this is more of a Federal thing. So while honest Ed is a bonehead on pretty much everything, not donating money to the cause isn't a big deal.

[FlamesAddiction]

At least private donations are pouring in. There are reports that Canadians have actually been crashing web servers of relief agencies because of the volume of donations.

[Rerun]

I never liked Stelmach.
I think the government of Alberta should donate something to Haiti.... This is a very unusual circumstance where are thousands who desparately need our help. I, personally, have already donated to the cause.



I think when the next election rolls around I might vote for WRA if Stelmach is still at the helm of the PCs. Last year I held my nose and voted Liberal. <yuck>. I was shocked that so many people supported Ed in the last election. I thought for sure he would lose seats.

[oxygen]

Click on the link in the original post again, it nows says Alberta is donating $500,000. Also, found in this article: http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Al...123/story.html

[Komskies]

It seems like Stelmach was damned if he did and damned if he didn't. I think he made the "right" decision.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

I apologize then, unfortunately your username implies certain traits

Sooooo..............you commit arson?