Brenda Martin

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Dion

I find it hard to believe that a defence lawyer would lie. At the same time i'm scratching my head as to why documents were leaked.

You have the govts view and her lawyers view. Some where in between is the truth. It's that truth that i would like to see.

Martin herself was convicted on infered evidence as there was no direct link to her and the crime. Add to the fact the onus is on the defence to prove innocence, it's no wonder the judge sided with the prosecution.

As for her working illegally, get her for back taxes owed.

Frig don't ever get summoned for jury duty then
Theres very little information on the case because she denied the Mexican authorities request to release the information. I think the government was tired of being played and decided to let out some information that might swing public opinion. After all shes painted herself as a martyr who's spent 2 years languishing in a Mexican concentration camp.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Frig don't ever get summoned for jury duty then
Theres very little information on the case because she denied the Mexican authorities request to release the information. I think the government was tired of being played and decided to let out some information that might swing public opinion. After all shes painted herself as a martyr who's spent 2 years languishing in a Mexican concentration camp.

There's very little information yet some have her tried and convicted on what the media has reported. That's what bothers me.

Lots of he said/she said sinerios have been reported without the truth in between.

Who knows what the truth is

[Dion]

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[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by FFR

You dont' think that being involved in fraud (allegedly) is breaking the law?

In Mexico, it's only against the law if you're not giving the police their cut.

Unfortunately, corruption like this is the norm in most parts of the world. People don't realize how lucky we are in Canada when our biggest corruption issues are things like the Quebec sponsorship scandal.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Dion

I find it hard to believe that a defence lawyer would lie. At the same time i'm scratching my head as to why documents were leaked.

You have the govts view and her lawyers view. Some where in between is the truth. It's that truth that i would like to see.

Martin herself was convicted on infered evidence as there was no direct link to her and the crime. Add to the fact the onus is on the defence to prove innocence, it's no wonder the judge sided with the prosecution. Guilty beyond reasonable doubt doesn't seem to apply to mexican law.

As for her working illegally, get her for back taxes owed.

trout already posted snippets of Mexican law that differ from Canadian law. One of them is the guilty/innocence issue.

As for truth, there is some pretty damning evidence against her. In a Canadian court, she might be found Not Guilty, but she was convicted in the country that the offences took place. I understand why you doubt the Mexican legal system (to an extent), but this particular case just reeks of media exposure and heartstring-pulling.
As previously mentioned, the huge difference between our legal systems (besides the assumption of guilt) is that circumstantial evidence can get you convicted. Frankly, with all the obvious criminals that walk free in Canada because the Crown's case is mostly/purely circumstantial, I'm glad to see a prosecution.
I find it hard to believe that she was as 'in the dark' as she claims.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by 4X4

trout already posted snippets of Mexican law that differ from Canadian law. One of them is the guilty/innocence issue.

As for truth, there is some pretty damning evidence against her. In a Canadian court, she might be found Not Guilty, but she was convicted in the country that the offences took place.

As well there is some evidence that supports she didn't know what she was doing. Problem is we don't have all the facts the Mexican govt supposedly has which makes it hard to ascertain just where the truth and lies fit in.

I understand why you doubt the Mexican legal system (to an extent), but this particular case just reeks of media exposure and heartstring-pulling.

Agreed. The whole case has been turned into a soap opera by the media. It's not doing her any good, in fact it's turning people like me sour on the whole situation.

As previously mentioned, the huge difference between our legal systems (besides the assumption of guilt) is that circumstantial evidence can get you convicted. Frankly, with all the obvious criminals that walk free in Canada because the Crown's case is mostly/purely circumstantial, I'm glad to see a prosecution.

If the Mexican system was used here we have innocent people behind bars. Imagine all the cases that would go to trial simply because the prosecutor doesn't have to prove he has enough evidence.

I find it hard to believe that she was as 'in the dark' as she claims.

I don't believe she's a saint either. Problem is will probably never know the whole truth

[old-fart]

I doubt we'll even know the whole truth, but I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see a book from Ms. Martin after she gets out of jail detailing (in her view of course) how horrible she was treated by the Mexican and Canadian governments and how both are just evil beyond belief. Personally, I'd like to see Canadian law applied in that case (since she is a Canadian citizen and is finishing her sentence in Canada thanks to the Canadian government) that says she can't profit from a crime and any proceeds of said book would have to go either her victims, or a recognized charity.

If Ms. Martin would allow the judge to release all the information, perhaps we'd get to the truth. Unfortunately, she doesn't want that to happen - and that has to make you wonder why.

[FFR]

Brenda Martin has been granted parole and released:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories

[Byrns]

Guess who's back in jail....
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...Canada&s_name=

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Byrns

Guess who's back in jail....
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...Canada&s_name=

Awww really?

Looking back on this thread is kind of funny.