Bad World Jr. for Greg Nemisz

[ipuckedyourmom]

I was really disappointed with the play of Greg Nemisz during the world jrs. It was good that he made the team but he finished the tournament with just 1 goal. What makes it even worse is that he played on the top line for much of the tournament along side Taylor Hall and Adam Henrique/Nazem Kadri. Not a good showing for a flames first round pick.

Greg Nemisz stats at the wolrd jrs:

6 GP, 1G, 0A, 1P
His +/- was 0...worst on the team!

[RockOnRoberts]

With Kadri on his line, I am surprised Nemisz even touched the puck.

[shermanator]

Why don't we just rip on every Flames prospect just because they don't set the world on fire? I think Nemisz is doing fine....

[kirant]

To be fair, he's sharing a line with Kardri and Hall, who can do everything themselves at the Jrs.

[Claeren]

Originally Posted by ipuckedyourmom

I was really disappointed with the play of Greg Nemisz during the world jrs. It was good that he made the team but he finished the tournament with just 1 goal. What makes it even worse is that he played on the top line for much of the tournament along side Taylor Hall and Adam Henrique/Nazem Kadri. Not a good showing for a flames first round pick.

What a hilarious analysis.

Basically if he had scored 10g but played horrible in other areas of his game you would think he had played better than if he played a great and mature 2-way game and only scored 1g?

Canada's problem in this tournament was not scoring goals. It was playing two way hockey against the few opponents that could push back. And from what I saw Nemisz was one of the few forwards as commited (or more so) behind his own blueline as he was across the opponents blueline.

Did you ever stop to wonder why he was on the top line in the first place? Basically it was his job to cover for Kadri and Hall when they overcommited or made a boneheaded pass -- of which there were many. He did a pretty good job IMO.


Plus big guys always take a few more years to develop (before their size/strength/durability can impose on the small guys agility/speed/coordination). A good portion of these little tiny speedy forwards at the world juniors will never make much of an impact at the NHL level, especially from this group. Where Nemisz still has 2-5 years to grow into his body. There is no way he ends up worse than a Moss and has plenty of upside above that I think.








Claeren.

[JustAnotherGuy]

Originally Posted by Claeren

What a hilarious analysis.

Basically if he had scored 10g but played horrible in other areas of his game you would think he had played better than if he played a great and mature 2-way game and only scored 1g?

Canada's problem in this tournament was not scoring goals. It was playing two way hockey against the few opponents that could push back. And from what I saw Nemisz was one of the few forwards as commited (or more so) behind his own blueline as he was across the opponents blueline.

Did you ever stop to wonder why he was on the top line in the first place? Basically it was his job to cover for Kadri and Hall when they overcommited or made a boneheaded pass -- of which there were many. He did a pretty good job IMO.


Plus big guys always take a few more years to develop (before their size/strength/durability can impose on the small guys agility/speed/coordination). A good portion of these little tiny speedy forwards at the world juniors will never make much of an impact at the NHL level, especially from this group. Where Nemisz still has 2-5 years to grow into his body. There is no way he ends up worse than a Moss and has plenty of upside above that I think.


Claeren.

Your post would have been a perfect post it you didn't insult the previous person's analysis. Why did you feel you had to insult his analysis? Does it make you feel better?

Yes, I feel better for asking you that question. This site would be alot better if people would stick to their thoughts and stop the insults.

Thanks for the analysis. It is well thought out.

[Claeren]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

Your post would have been a perfect post it you didn't insult the previous person's analysis. Why did you feel you had to insult his analysis? Does it make you feel better?

Yes, I feel better for asking you that question. This site would be alot better if people would stick to their thoughts and stop the insults.

Thanks for the analysis. It is well thought out.

Arent you doing the same thing? Couldnt you have made the same point without adding the "Does it make you feel better?" ??


I wasn't insulting the original poster, I simply thought it was hilarious. I find it funny when people use what essentially amounts a single metric to make a broad generalization about a 19 year old player.

It is not like it was a small part of a large analysis and i dismissed his other points. The entire post is essentially one sentance that says "Greg Nemisz disappointed me with his play at the World Jrs because he only scored one goal."


I would suggest YOU stick to the analysis and skip the insults though, you seem to be a bit too emotionally involved. The site would be a lot better if people stopped publically proclaiming what in their world would make the site a lot better.

It is crossing the line when you ignore a large part of what someone posts or when you worry about minor spelling/grammAr errors, the rest of the time just let people speak as they want to speak. We are not all 4 year olds here needing to be babysat.



Claeren.

[ipuckedyourmom]

Greg Nemisz stats at the wolrd jrs:

6 GP, 1G, 0A, 1P
His +/- was 0...worst on the team!

Lets face it, He was the worst canadian forward at the tournament.

[moon]

Originally Posted by ipuckedyourmom

Greg Nemisz stats at the wolrd jrs:

6 GP, 1G, 0A, 1P
His +/- was 0...worst on the team!

Lets face it, He was the worst canadian forward at the tournament.

He was so bad that the Canadian coaches kept him on the top line, played him pn the pk and refused to make him the 13th forward despite having the option to do so and limit his terrible play.

It amazes me how people can analze a players tournament without even watching the games.

[Claeren]

I hated watching him in the Canada-USA game as he was always the first (only?) forward following the transition play as the Americans sprinted back up the ice. I dont know where his linemates were, probably making a line change, but Nemisz really needs to learn to overcommit on offense and let his defenders worry about defense, because when the Americans have the puck and are attacking why bother wasting ones energy trying to stop them?? Lets face it, goals are where the big money is in the NHL, not defence.

lol



I am not saying Nemisz set the world on fire, but he was doing a lot of little things right that the so called stars on that team would not dream of doing with any consistancy. In fact, if some others among those big names had played the two way game like Nemisz did Canada would have won gold a lot sooner than if Nemisz had scored the 12th and 15th goals in the Latvia blowout.

As has been said, he was on the first line for a reason.





Claeren.

[ipuckedyourmom]

Originally Posted by moon

It amazes me how people can analze a players tournament without even watching the games.

It amazes me how grown men don't even know how to spell.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by ipuckedyourmom

It amazes me how grown men don't even know how to spell.

He missed a letter - it happens sometimes when people type. Get back on topic or the thread gets locked.

[TSXCman]

Originally Posted by ipuckedyourmom

It amazes me how grown men don't even know how to spell.

the picky spelling comments are always so petty. people type awful in general when it is in a casual environment such as chats and message boards.

leaving out a letter, hitting the key beside the key you meant to hit.. as if your brain can't just process the message as it was meant to be.

[Ring of Fire]

If you're gonna score one goal in the tournament, the gold medal game is the game to score it in. While Nemisz was not nearly as flashy as his linemates Kadri and Hall, he created room for the the two smaller faster guys which definitely contributed to the lines success. Like it or not, Nemisz is another power forward in the Flames system.

[Dorkmaster]

I'm probably a little disapointed about Nemisz and his lack of production but pretty much Canada scored a ton on the PP, which he was not part of and Kadri and Hall do pretty much solo rushes.

While you wish he would've done better, really it means little in the grand scheme of things.

[zarrell]

....and still good enough that he was selected as one of the 13 best junior aged forwards across the entire country.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Long term I am sure Nemisz will be an NHL player in some capacity. The problem is when people see his OHL numbers and then watch him tank at the WJC. There were higher expectations is all.
A chimp can get assists playing with the likes of Hall and Kadri though...so I'm not sure about his ofensive upside.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

A chimp can get assists playing with the likes of Hall and Kadri though...so I'm not sure about his ofensive upside.

Only if they let you actually touch the puck.

[6FeetDeep]

I don't mind some of your glass half full reviews of Nemisz but come on... If you watched the games, he was horrible. He couldnt keep up with the play, dosent play physical, and I see some people saying the reason he only got 1 point because he was playing defensive, get a clue. Hes big yes, but he dosent use his body and he's not a good skater. Looks like another career 3rd line grinder in our system. Wasnt that impressed with Erixon either but he definatly didnt disapoint me as bad as Nemisz.

[bigtmac19]

The Nemisz doesn't skate well argument is really getting old.

Just got back from the Spits game, Nemisz with 2 goals, Hall with 2 goals, Henrique with 1 goal 1 assist.

If they would have kept that line together I'm sure the points would have come pretty quickly.

Really not a fan of Desjardins coaching with this team.

Henrique is No. 1 in the OHL for face-off percentage wins (around 80%), but he barely used him.