Two Tory MLAs crossing to Wildrose Alliance

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Don't bother, he rides people about not providing any evidence for any claim they make but he can make any claim he wants without providing any evidence.

Well, it's nice to see the level of discourse you're interested in engaging in.

Seriously, I don't even know why you're so upset. You got caught BSing. Man up, admit it and move on.

[bcb]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Well, that sounds slightly different. And actually, I think it's a very good thing for high schools to be concerned about the degree to which they prepare kids for University (which is something a bit different from preparing them for "real life," I'd add). It shows that they care and that they are prepared to work at doing a better job.

It certainly doesn't mean that vouchers are a good idea. All vouchers do is funnel public money into private schools and worse, charter schools. I don't really get how that's a conservative idea; sounds like a colossal waste of money and misallocation of resources to me.

I agree. It's definitely not a conservative ideal. It's like a little kid moving his mashed potatoes around his plate in order to convince his Mom he's eaten everything.

[bcb]

I don't necessarily agree with what the WRA wants to do, but I'm not going to stick my head in the sand and say our public system doesn't have any problems.

As a public school teacher myself, it would be a dereliction of duty if I were to pretend everything were perfect, and not strive to improve my teaching.

Even though I said Alberta had the best public school system, I know, as do all teachers, that there needs to be improvement.

If there are issues with curriculum, lets deal with it.

If there are accountability issues, we can deal with those too

If students feel their education is not relevant enough to the real world, we can work on that.

But if we use public money to put kids into private schools, we don't address any problems and money just becomes scarcer than it already is.

[Yeah_Baby]

Kids talk about Machiavelli in grade 8 now. I think thats cool. I talked about Brazilian cowboys in grade 8.

[V]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

The fact is, on this issue (as with a few others) you once again show that you have too many opinions and not enough knowledge.

Another victim of the public school system.

[V]

On a more serious note, I'd be interested to know what percentage of children attend private schools in Alberta vs. Ontario. I haven't had any luck locating the data yet.

[fatso]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Kids talk about Machiavelli in grade 8 now. I think thats cool. I talked about Brazilian cowboys in grade 8.

It's because of her extensive posting in the GameThreads and her GameDay News Roundups.

[Jets4Life]

This is great news for Calgary. The Wildrose Alliance represents the disenfranchised Calgarians who were shunned in th Stelmach cabinet. Ed is a horrible premier, and is on par with the Manitoba NDP party. If I return to Alberrta, I will vote Wildrose.

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by troutman

What I meant by that, is there was just a leadership race contested by two candidates with very different views (Smith and Dyrholm) - I don't think WRA has really worked out what they stand for, especially on social issues.

Are Smith's views going to dominate?

Policy is still voted on by members. Any 5 can bring a policy forward; but it has to pass a vote of the members as a whole. Danielle has one vote; just as the rest of us do.

Having said that though; a strong leader can (should) be able to promote their beliefs and get members on side.

This actually applies to all members. For example; several years ago we had an archaic policy on the definition of marriage. I put forth a motion to remove it from our policy set; I spoke to why it should be removed and was able to get the members to agree.

As we grow our chances of producing and passing, sound, common sense policy also grows. The more people that vet the ideas; the less chance of the wingnut ideas getting through.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by First Lady

Policy is still voted on by members. Any 5 can bring a policy forward; but it has to pass a vote of the members as a whole. Danielle has one vote; just as the rest of us do.

Having said that though; a strong leader can (should) be able to promote their beliefs and get members on side.

This actually applies to all members. For example; several years ago we had an archaic policy on the definition of marriage. I put forth a motion to remove it from our policy set; I spoke to why it should be removed and was able to get the members to agree.

As we grow our chances of producing and passing, sound, common sense policy also grows. The more people that vet the ideas; the less chance of the wingnut ideas getting through.

I'd really like to hear the WRA policy on the discriminatory cap on minor injuries.

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by troutman

I'd really like to hear the WRA policy on the discriminatory cap on minor injuries.

I am quite sure we don't have a policy on it.

My personal opinion is it should be trashed. This is my past life as a claims adjuster sneaking thru.

Hey, join and I will sign in support of your motion..... come'on, I dare ya.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by First Lady

I am quite sure we don't have a policy on it.

My personal opinion is it should be trashed. This is my past life as a claims adjuster sneaking thru.

Hey, join and I will sign in support of your motion..... come'on, I dare ya.

I might surprise you.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

I have never put someone on the ignore list but you are getting mighty close. I know you don't give a crap but every time you post something it makes me cring.

Yeah!!! Quit asking him to support his claims with tangible proof! Shame on you!

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by First Lady

I am quite sure we don't have a policy on it.

My personal opinion is it should be trashed. This is my past life as a claims adjuster sneaking thru.

Hey, join and I will sign in support of your motion..... come'on, I dare ya.

Well, I have a card, so what is the process to submit a policy motion?

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Well, I have a card, so what is the process to submit a policy motion?

Glad you asked.

As I have mentioned you need 5 members (including yourself, so 4 others) to sign on as "supporting" your policy proposal.

If you don't know 4 other members you could sign up four more people who support it. Or propably the better route would be to contact your local constituency association. Most boards allow members to attend their regular board meetings. This is a good place to put it forward. You will get a lot of open and honest feedback. It's sort of like a "live version of CP". Be prepared for discussion and have your facts handy.

If it falls into one of the catagories where we have a task force set up, it would be best to get in touch with them directly. So far we have one for "Energy" and one for "MLA Pay & Perks". Two more will be announced in this first quarter; I believe they will be "Healthcare" and "Education." If you are interested in any of these just drop us a line at the office. info@wildrosealliance.ca

If you are not sure if your idea falls into the general guiding principles of the party you can run it past John Hilton-O'Brien our VP of Policy. His email is john.hiltonobrien(at)wildrosealliance.ca

[Ford Prefect]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

I have seen it on many news programs as well Roy Green show had a segment with a bunch of educators on showing a HUGE increase in highschool graduates across the country that can only read and write at a grade six level. And I am not talking about a small amount here it was something like 10%.

I can also relate some of it to my own experiences in the real world.

This is off topic (kind of), but I'm curious as to why you misspell your user name. It's Malkshur, not Malkshor.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Ford Prefect

This is off topic (kind of), but I'm curious as to why you misspell your user name. It's Malkshur, not Malkshor.

So now people can't have different and unique names?

What's right?

Smith or Smyth?
John or Jon
Peter or Piotr

It's a made up name. I got the idea off a TV show and made it my own. Honestly.

[Ford Prefect]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

So now people can't have different and unique names?

What's right?

Smith or Smyth?
John or Jon
Peter or Piotr

It's a made up name. I got the idea off a TV show and made it my own. Honestly.

For sure, names can be and are spelled with different variations. But if you spell Iggy's name as Jerome it's wrong. Same with Johnny Pitkanen. And the TV character's name is spelled Malkshur by the program's writers, thus Malkshor is incorrect. I was just wondering if that was deliberate, or a mistake, and if deliberate then I'm curious about the rationale.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Ford Prefect

For sure, names can be and are spelled with different variations. But if you spell Iggy's name as Jerome it's wrong. Same with Johnny Pitkanen. And the TV character's name is spelled Malkshur by the program's writers, thus Malkshor is incorrect. I was just wondering if that was deliberate, or a mistake, and if deliberate then I'm curious about the rationale.

Because I wanted to make it my own. There are other boards that I have posted on that have the same name spelt differently as well. Different website different names. I am not quoting the name thus I don't need to spell it the way the tv show does.

[Knalus]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

The fact that many voters erroneously believe that they vote for the party and not the person is irrelevant. In fact, political parties and party discipline are the real threat to "democracy" here, not duly elected legislators taking actions that are both democratic and proper according to parliamentary traditions and rules.

I know it was a ways back, but I just want to highlight this part of a post IFF made. I never thought of it that way before, but now I might have a hard time NOT thinking of it this way from now on.