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Old 01-06-2010, 12:58 PM   #1
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Young children spanked by their parents may perform better at school later on and grow up to be happier,

Spanking children up to six years old made them more successful in school, more optimistic about life, more likely to take voluntary work, and more keen to attend university than their never-spanked counterparts.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2409510
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Old 01-06-2010, 01:01 PM   #2
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I'm all for using spanking when needed (done properly - i.e. not abusive), but I think any form of discipline if studied the same way would end up with the same results.
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Old 01-06-2010, 01:02 PM   #3
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This raises a red flag in my eyes:
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However this latest research, which Prof. Gunnoe admitted was previously rejected by two professional journals, including the Journal of Family Psychology, contradicts other findings that spanking is counterproductive.
Rejected by two professional journals? Something tells me we aren't getting the whole story here. As far as I'm aware there is quite a bit of evidence against spanking. One study comes along that claims otherwise and won't be published tells me that there are some scientific problems with the research.

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Old 01-06-2010, 01:03 PM   #4
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"let the beatings continue until moral improves!"

I jest, of course. sometimes a good swat on the ass, not the face, not the back, not the legs, will do a lot of good. I got it when I was younger and turned out semi-ok. My kids got it on the butt when they deserved it and I think my kids are great!
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Old 01-06-2010, 01:03 PM   #5
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what if, say, youre spanking yourself, as opposed to children?
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I turned out just fine. That's my own opinion, of course.
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Old 01-06-2010, 01:06 PM   #7
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Beat your children, for the great good.
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Old 01-06-2010, 01:06 PM   #8
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My parents spanked me, and I don't think it's a form of child abuse like some people do (if done within reason, of course), but the conclusions of that study are very spurious. I'm only going on what's written in the article, and I haven't read the actual study, but it sounds like the authors made the classic blunder of confusing correlation with causation. Did the children grow up to be better adults specifically because they were spanked, or was it simply because their parents were more attentive to discipline, regardless of the method used?
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Old 01-06-2010, 01:06 PM   #9
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This just in, spanked children may become worse adults. Pretty open ended statement.

But back on topic, appropriate spanking never hurt anyone. Everyone in my family grew up to be pretty good people.
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Old 01-06-2010, 01:11 PM   #10
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I was spanked when I was growing up. Hell I even like a little big of spanking nowdays by a burley dominatrix named Frieda.

But I digress.

My parents were big proponents of both spanking and punishment in the form of harsh physical labour. there were rarely groundings in our house, or confiscation of goods. Punishment was immediate and non negotiable and you knew where you stood.

Because of that I only murder hobo's I don't kill college co-eds.
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Old 01-06-2010, 01:12 PM   #11
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Both my brother and I were spanked as kids and we turned out fine. Never held any resentment towards mom and dad for it, as we always deserved it when we got it. I always thought I'd do the same with my kids, and now that I have them, I realize I just don't have it in me to spank them. They're just so damn small and cute.
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I was spanked as a child, when I deserved it. I'm now... awesome.
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I even remember getting the strap in grade school... (those old nuns were tough boy!... didn't take any back talk at all!!!)

Nothing wrong with that....

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a little off topic but...
there's an old saying...
"At 16, your kids wonder how you could have possibly survived all these years being as stupid as you are. At 18, your kids are amazed as to how much you've learned in 2 years."
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I heard this about spanking once and it makes the most sense to me: "One good spank on the bottom is all your child needs. Anything more than that is for you and isn't productive."
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I was spanked as a child, when I deserved it. I'm now... awesome.
I was just gonna say . . . . . . ditto!!!

Getting a ruler across the knuckles, flat palm or the arse was still prevalent in school back in the day. I just thought it would make me embittered and bent on revenge as an adult and look how wrong I apparently was.

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^ When I saw you posted I was hoping for a picture.
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My parents spanked me, and I don't think it's a form of child abuse like some people do (if done within reason, of course), but the conclusions of that study are very spurious. I'm only going on what's written in the article, and I haven't read the actual study, but it sounds like the authors made the classic blunder of confusing correlation with causation. Did the children grow up to be better adults specifically because they were spanked, or was it simply because their parents were more attentive to discipline, regardless of the method used?
Especially when you bring in the fact that parents who spank their children as a proper form of discipline and not as a form of anger or frustration probably have a pretty good idea what it takes to properly discipline a child.
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I just bought a bark collar for my dog. The company made sure that in the instruction manual it said that it is a tool of 'adjustment', not 'punishment'.

If my son gets intentionally out of line, I'm pretty sure I'll be 'adjusting' him, not 'punishing' him.
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