If the Nazis had won the Battle of Britain, would it have looked like this?

[T@T]

No doubt in my mind that Hitler could have taken Britain. And it would have been a swift death had German forces reached the shores with operation sea-lion(the planned invasion of Britain) in 1940. Hitler had enough ground troops in western Europe to crush the British but his big mistake was underestimating the advancements the British made with their fighter aircraft, not in a million years did he think they could have aircraft that could keep up with his Messerschmitts and Focke-Wulf's. He needed air supremacy for the invasion to work and if not for Britain's RAF the people of London would still be hearing that terrible scream of the Stuka's whistle in their heads.
The Hurricane,the Spitfire and incredible pilots with balls made of steel saved Britain's arse and maybe ours!

So what would have happened if he had won the air-war and took Britain? Simple answer?..a lot of "ifs and buts"

With the extra man power available he probably could have beat the crap out of Stalin and taken Russia but I'm not sure he would have (at least not right away) because I truly believe Hitler would have expected the USA to enter the war and now he would have to defend Britain from an invasion by the allies.

Couple of interesting questions...

• Could the Allies invade Britain without a staging ground?
• Without a staging ground how could the allies bomb Germany?
• With more time and resources would the Germans have developed the Atomic bomb first?

So do we owe the fact we sang "god save the queen" in elementary school instead of "hail the mighty Hitler" to the Hurricane and Spitfire...very possible.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by T@T

No doubt in my mind that Hitler could have taken Britain. And it would have been a swift death had German forces reached the shores with operation sea-lion(the planned invasion of Britain) in 1940. Hitler had enough ground troops in western Europe to crush the British but his big mistake was underestimating the advancements the British made with their fighter aircraft, not in a million years did he think they could have aircraft that could keep up with his Messerschmitts and Focke-Wulf's. He needed air supremacy for the invasion to work and if not for Britain's RAF the people of London would still be hearing that terrible scream of the Stuka's whistle in their heads.
The Hurricane,the Spitfire and incredible pilots with balls made of steel saved Britain's arse and maybe ours!

So what would have happened if he had won the air-war and took Britain? Simple answer?..a lot of "ifs and buts"

With the extra man power available he probably could have beat the crap out of Stalin and taken Russia but I'm not sure he would have (at least not right away) because I truly believe Hitler would have expected the USA to enter the war and now he would have to defend Britain from an invasion by the allies.

Couple of interesting questions...

• Could the Allies invade Britain without a staging ground?
• Without a staging ground how could the allies bomb Germany?
• With more time and resources would the Germans have developed the Atomic bomb first?

So do we owe the fact we sang "god save the queen" in elementary school instead of "hail the mighty Hitler" to the Hurricane and Spitfire...very possible.

1940 - The only fully equipped division was a Canadian one. So I agree the Germans would have had an easy time of it.

Question one.....Iceland would have had to be the launching ground.
2) Couldn't. Even with today's tech it would be nearly impossible.
3) No. I read somewhere that after the war they found that the Germans were way off track. They were actually a full 5-10 year behind. The rocket technology would have been enough to threaten North America.

[FlamesAddiction]

From what I heard, it was Hitler's hope that England would join the Third Reich without needing to be occupied. There were some sympathizers and he thought that if he could hurt their moral enough, people would be ok with surrendering. He wanted Britain as a functioning part of the Empire, and not a state that needed significant resources to occupy.

He really under estimated the resolve of the British people and it's something I always admired about the British. The stories of how the Queen mother spent time in the sewers with "peasants" to help keep their moral up really made me admire her too.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by HOZ

1940 - The only fully equipped division was a Canadian one. So I agree the Germans would have had an easy time of it.

Question one.....Iceland would have had to be the launching ground.
2) Couldn't. Even with today's tech it would be nearly impossible.
3) No. I read somewhere that after the war they found that the Germans were way off track. They were actually a full 5-10 year behind. The rocket technology would have been enough to threaten North America.

Iceland?
700 miles or so of beautiful North Atlantic sea, Hitlers subs would have picked them off with ease and thats if the Allies could even get their troops set up in Iceland in the first place. As soon as Hitler would have got a clue what they were up too he would have set up shop on the Faroe Islands and bombed the hell out of them before they even left Iceland.

2) Agreed for the 1940's but todays tech not so much, B-2's can leave South Carolina, bomb Iraq and return home without landing.

3) Conflicting reports on how close they really were, some reports say they actually detonated a "dirty" bomb as far back as 1943 but then the development place was flattened by allied bombings.

And Einstein was very worried how close they were. Just be glad we'll never know!

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by T@T

Iceland?
700 miles or so of beautiful North Atlantic sea, Hitlers subs would have picked them off with ease and thats if the Allies could even get their troops set up in Iceland in the first place. As soon as Hitler would have got a clue what they were up too he would have set up shop on the Faroe Islands and bombed the hell out of them before they even left Iceland.

2) Agreed for the 1940's but todays tech not so much, B-2's can leave South Carolina, bomb Iraq and return home without landing.

3) Conflicting reports on how close they really were, some reports say they actually detonated a "dirty" bomb as far back as 1943 but then the development place was flattened by allied bombings.

And Einstein was very worried how close they were. Just be glad we'll never know!

Iceland is the closest island we have. NFLD is much farther. The Allies were able landed 2-5 million troops and supplies on England because by the time (and before) USA entered the war the Allies were winning the Atlantic battle by a wide margin. So yes they could have made it to Iceland.

2) IMO....WWII Germany was far better equipped to defend themselves than was Iraq. They had 3 series of AA batteries which the Allies had to fly through. Add in Britain and they could add 2 more. Possible but tough.

3) Yes, agreed. Good won out fortunately!

[burn_this_city]

It would have been impossible to make a land invasion of Europe from North America.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by dj_patm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV5NV...eature=related

Sweat

[T@T]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Iceland is the closest island we have. NFLD is much farther. The Allies were able landed 2-5 million troops and supplies on England because by the time (and before) USA entered the war the Allies were winning the Atlantic battle by a wide margin. So yes they could have made it to Iceland.

2) IMO....WWII Germany was far better equipped to defend themselves than was Iraq. They had 3 series of AA batteries which the Allies had to fly through. Add in Britain and they could add 2 more. Possible but tough.

3) Yes, agreed. Good won out fortunately!

But were talking about an invasion force not sporadic troops and supplies over a couple of years, Iceland IMO would never have worked, It's too far away(back then) to have any surprise element, Hitler would have known about it and ended it before it got started.

And I wouldn't say the Allies were winning the Atlantic battle by a large margin either,From 39-40 more Canadian troops were killed in the Atlantic then in battle. Hitlers "wolf packs" were extremely effective so much so that after the war Churchhill commented "The only thing that really frightened me during the war was the U-Boat peril"
So if add the British Navy ships to Hitlers arsenal he would have squashed anything in the Atlantic trying to invade Britain.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

It would have been impossible to make a land invasion of Europe from North America.

Absolutely true, even if the soldiers were superhuman the equipment to make it happen didn't exist and truth be known it still doesn't. (only because it's not needed)

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by T@T

But were talking about an invasion force not sporadic troops and supplies over a couple of years, Iceland IMO would never have worked, It's too far away(back then) to have any surprise element, Hitler would have known about it and ended it before it got started.

And I wouldn't say the Allies were winning the Atlantic battle by a large margin either,From 39-40 more Canadian troops were killed in the Atlantic then in battle. Hitlers "wolf packs" were extremely effective so much so that after the war Churchhill commented "The only thing that really frightened me during the war was the U-Boat peril"
So if add the British Navy ships to Hitlers arsenal he would have squashed anything in the Atlantic trying to invade Britain.

I don't know if Hitler would have added British ships to his navy. Chances are at the first sign of land invasion, Churchill and the Navy would have been on the way to Canada.

Remember what happened to the French Navy when Hitler tried to seize it.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I don't know if Hitler would have added British ships to his navy. Chances are at the first sign of land invasion, Churchill and the Navy would have been on the way to Canada.

I don't think Canada had enough cigars for Churchill or enough detergent for the Navys stinky socks.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Remember what happened to the French Navy when Hitler tried to seize it.

The French had a Navy?

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by dj_patm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV5NV...eature=related

i'm wondering if things would have really played out that way had Hitler won. if i remember correctly his vision of a 1000 year reich included the whole globe, so i'd think he would have planned an invasion of North America sooner or later