Rugby player comes out of the closet

[HPLovecraft]

Sometimes I think mikey_the_redneck is simple playing a character that he uses during bad stand-up comedy routines the way he's so consistent with his postings.

[Buzzard]

Originally Posted by _Q_

I always wonder how many pro athletes are gay actually.

I don't know if it's still relevant, and how the hell it could even be theorized, but I seem to remember the 1 in 10 figure for male homosexuality. That would make some 70 odd players in the NHL gay. Seems pretty high but who knows.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Buzzard

I don't know if it's still relevant, and how the hell it could even be theorized, but I seem to remember the 1 in 10 figure for male homosexuality. That would make some 70 odd players in the NHL gay. Seems pretty high but who knows.

Maybe not when you think about it. Plus some may be homosexual and have those tendencies but are closeted. Hell the dudes in Brokeback were married.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

heh, you really are a redneck aren't you?

Well......how can anyone not notice how gay culture is being jammed down our throats?
I dont feel bad saying that I am not comfortable with it, and want no part in it. Gay culture does not interest me in the least. I can honestly say that out of all the people I have come across in my life, I think I know of 3 people who are gay. But you go home and flip on the TV and it seems every damn show has obnoxious gay characters that drive me bonkers. It's like the cool new thing to be or something, no thanks.

1 in 10 men are gay? 10%?..............I think not.

[Buzzard]

Originally Posted by Buzzard

I don't know if it's still relevant, and how the hell it could even be theorized, but I seem to remember the 1 in 10 figure for male homosexuality. That would make some 70 odd players in the NHL gay. Seems pretty high but who knows.

And if that was the case, there'd probably be enough gay players for every position. A possible new format for the allstar game down the road. Gay vs. Straight. Wonder what Grapes would think of that!

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Well......how can anyone not notice how gay culture is being jammed down our throats?

Must..... resist...... obvious....... joke......

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Well......how can anyone not notice how gay culture is being jammed down our throats?
I dont feel bad saying that I am not comfortable with it, and want no part in it. Gay culture does not interest me in the least. I can honestly say that out of all the people I have come across in my life, I think I know of 3 people who are gay. But you go home and flip on the TV and it seems every damn show has obnoxious gay characters that drive me bonkers. It's like the cool new thing to be or something, no thanks.

1 in 10 men are gay? 10%?..............I think not.

Tell me about it. And what's with all the vampire characters on tv shows now? Its like the cool new thing to be. I'm not comfortable with vampires, I want no part of this new vampire movement. If I ever see a gay vampire on TV, i'm gonna lose it. The left wing liberals and their gay vampire loving tendencies are just going too far.

[Russic]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

TBQH I hope the NHL keeps any gay-ness under wraps. I don't hate gays, but I feel we are bombarded enough with gay culture through other media sources, Adam Lambert being one of many examples........

You act like simply knowing that gays exist is a strain on you. Bombarded with gay culture? What kind of media are you watching where you are bombarded with gay culture? That's not a veiled insult, I'm dead serious. I pay attention to many forms of media and I only kinda know who Adam Lambert is.

I'm almost at a loss to even think of prominent people forcing "the gay" on us. Will & Grace isn't on anymore ... that's pretty much the biggest example I can think of.

[yads]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

TBQH I hope the NHL keeps any gay-ness under wraps. I don't hate gays, but I feel we are bombarded enough with gay culture through other media sources, Adam Lambert being one of many examples........

It's not so much whether or not we get 'bombarded' with gay culture. It's more an issue of gay players being able to not live in shame/fear of their sexuality. Considering it has nothing to do with their ability to play the sport. If it takes some exposure initially to get the ball rolling, then when it's not a big deal at all, you won't be 'bombarded' with anything as it will no longer be news.

[Buzzard]

Originally Posted by Russic

You act like simply knowing that gays exist is a strain on you. Bombarded with gay culture? What kind of media are you watching where you are bombarded with gay culture? That's not a veiled insult, I'm dead serious. I pay attention to many forms of media and I only kinda know who Adam Lambert is.

I'm almost at a loss to even think of prominent people forcing "the gay" on us. Will & Grace isn't on anymore ... that's pretty much the biggest example I can think of.

Canuck hockey?

[Russic]

Originally Posted by Buzzard

I don't know if it's still relevant, and how the hell it could even be theorized, but I seem to remember the 1 in 10 figure for male homosexuality. That would make some 70 odd players in the NHL gay. Seems pretty high but who knows.

It's tough to get an accurate number, but I think the 1 in 10 stat is a little outdated. I believe the more accepted number is around 1 in 50. Regardless, there is a very high likelihood that there are many homosexuals in the NHL.

My guess is though that it isn't 1 in 50. 1 in 50 works in a general population, but the NHL isn't really a random sample. They all exist in a culture where it is (I would argue) less acceptable to be gay than other places. For example, I imagine it's much easier to come out of the closet if you work at Futureshop than it is if you play a professional sport. I would think that the culture of machismo would filter out many gays. Perhaps I'm wrong ... just a guess.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Russic

You act like simply knowing that gays exist is a strain on you. Bombarded with gay culture? What kind of media are you watching where you are bombarded with gay culture? That's not a veiled insult, I'm dead serious. I pay attention to many forms of media and I only kinda know who Adam Lambert is.

I'm almost at a loss to even think of prominent people forcing "the gay" on us. Will & Grace isn't on anymore ... that's pretty much the biggest example I can think of.

Knowing gays exist is not a strain on me, but the media sensationalizing it is what annoys me the most.

It all started with Ellen coming out of the closet way back when. Like we couldn't tell she was making out with the bearded clam anyways! Then that nudist Richard guy on the original Survivor....which I quit watching after the first season by the way. Recently it was big news that Brian Burkes kid was gay.....

You mean you didn't hear all the hoopla about Adam Lambert making out with a dude on stage at the Amercian Music Awards? I don't watch American Idol but that is where he came from. Anyways after that a bunch of his appearances at other shows were cancelled, and there was "outrage" about the "discrimination".....gay characters have even appeared in my favourite show Two and a Half Men! The one place I thought was free of gay propaganda.....it seems I just can't get away from it.......

[COGENT]

I wonder when we get to the point that homosexuals don't have to "come out" anymore and can just be who/what they are?

I'm sure there are many gay athletes that tell their teammates about their sexual preference but don't tell the media. The fact that they are gay would have the possibility of overshadowing their career which could be incredibly disappointing as an athlete.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by yads

It's not so much whether or not we get 'bombarded' with gay culture. It's more an issue of gay players being able to not live in shame/fear of their sexuality. Considering it has nothing to do with their ability to play the sport. If it takes some exposure initially to get the ball rolling, then when it's not a big deal at all, you won't be 'bombarded' with anything as it will no longer be news.

I bet a Canadian star player like Joe Thornton coming out of the closet would be BIG news in Canada here, and would get intense media attention for quite awhile. This is what annoys me. In 2009, it should not be a big deal whenever a famous person admits to being gay.....

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Buzzard

And if that was the case, there'd probably be enough gay players for every position. A possible new format for the allstar game down the road. Gay vs. Straight. Wonder what Grapes would think of that!

But the NHL isn't really a representative cross-section of society. While it stands to reason that there are gay players past and present, I would think that it is at a lower rate than society as a whole.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Knowing gays exist is not a strain on me, but the media sensationalizing it is what annoys me the most.

Not all of them are sensational. Some of them are simply fabulous.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

gay characters have even appeared in my favourite show Two and a Half Men! The one place I thought was free of gay propaganda.....it seems I just can't get away from it.......

Yeah, it is kind of ridiculous that a gay character would make an appearance in a show about a musician living in Hollywood.

It's like that time they had an astronaut on The Waltons.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Knowing gays exist is not a strain on me, but the media sensationalizing it is what annoys me the most.

It all started with Ellen coming out of the closet way back when. Like we couldn't tell she was making out with the bearded clam anyways! Then that nudist Richard guy on the original Survivor....which I quit watching after the first season by the way. Recently it was big news that Brian Burkes kid was gay.....

You mean you didn't hear all the hoopla about Adam Lambert making out with a dude on stage at the Amercian Music Awards? I don't watch American Idol but that is where he came from. Anyways after that a bunch of his appearances at other shows were cancelled, and there was "outrage" about the "discrimination".....gay characters have even appeared in my favourite show Two and a Half Men! The one place I thought was free of gay propaganda.....it seems I just can't get away from it.......

Adam Lambert also made out with a woman on stage.... I note that this doesn't strike you as "sensationalizing heterosexuality." Effectively, this is a double standard--heterosexuals can be open about their sexual preference, homosexuals cannot. Resisting that double standard is not "sensationalizing" anything, it's just standing up for what's right in a free society.

Seems to me the only one who's creating "hoopla" about homosexuality is you. Maybe you secretly wish that it wasn't gay culture that was being jammed down your throat.

In all seriousness, you're free to hold those attitudes. Just don't pretend that they aren't homophobic. If you think gay people are fine as long as they never act gay in public... you're a homophobe. Simple as that.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I bet a Canadian star player like Joe Thornoton coming out of the closet would be BIG news in Canada here, and would get intense media attention for quite awhile. This is what annoys me. In 2009, it should not be a big deal whenever a famous person admits to being gay.....

Wait.... Joe Thornton is gay? I'll admit, I didn't see that coming. This is how rumours start....

[Clarkey]