AVATAR - See it in 3D if you haven't! #1 Movie All-Time Domestic & Worldwide!

[HPLovecraft]

Wow, some people sure are taking those who didn't like Avatar's story personally, eh? I'm not sure how criticizing the movie Avatar can be categorized as being a dick unless you were intimately involved in making the movie.

The story was simplistic, the dialogue was clunky and filled witth exposition at times (especially in the 3rd act), and a few of the characters were mere archetypes (the villain and Grace).

Hey, I didn't even have to pull out my Film Studies 101 manual to figure that out. I must be good.

[gargamel]

I think it's just that anyone who says they didn't enjoy the movie going experience regardless of what they thought of the plot is either lying or joyless. I'm willing to accept that there can be disagreements about most things, but I can't believe that anyone saw this in imax 3-d and didn't have a good time.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by gargamel

I think it's just that anyone who says they didn't enjoy the movie going experience regardless of what they thought of the plot is either lying or joyless. I'm willing to accept that there can be disagreements about most things, but I can't believe that anyone saw this in imax 3-d and didn't have a good time.

Not everyone is into the same things when it comes to movies... Maybe some people can't buy into a thinly veiled Native American culture with big blue cats? Maybe the 3-D gives some people a headache. I don't think many people were going in expecting Good Will Hunting out of a James Cameron epic.

Personally, I enjoyed the movie, but was mildly disappointed. I'd go see it again for the effects, but the movie has weak points, and most of these center around the non-visual, so I don't see why it's not fair to talk about these things when it comes to the film.

[Flashpoint]

Originally Posted by gargamel

I think it's just that anyone who says they didn't enjoy the movie going experience regardless of what they thought of the plot is either lying or joyless. I'm willing to accept that there can be disagreements about most things, but I can't believe that anyone saw this in imax 3-d and didn't have a good time.

Well, if you drop 12 bucks and the picture is blurry, or you had crap seats, or you went in expecting it to be life changing, and it wasn't your cup of tea...

...there can be lots of reasons for people to not enjoy a movie. It doesn't mean there is anything wrong with them (or the movie).

I thought it was the best cinematic experience of my entire life. Doesn't mean I'd tell my Grandma to go see it.

[murray1]

Bump. Just got back from Avatar.

It was freaking awesome. Every single piece of the movie was amazing. How they incorporated all the weird animals, machinery and everything seamlessly so that it looked real blew me away.

The plot was maybe a bit predictable but that is to be expected.

Amazing film and in a few years time I expect to be seeing more and more films like this.

And I didn't even see it in imax(sold out). This was just the digital 3d.

[dj_patm]

Im sorry to me it felt like I was literally watching a cartoon. Made for Kids.

SPOILERS

With the dancing and singing and feel good, cheesy, dialogue (especially by the end) I couldn't help but feel I was watching something made by Pixar. That and the 3D downfalls was what ruined the movie for me.

I'm never one to be a snob (my favorite movies would probably consist of the Hangover for comedy and Bourne Ultimatum for action) and I'm all for stunning visuals (I'm one of the few people who really liked Day After Tomorrow) but this story was just so... Childish and predictable.

Sorry. Thats how I feel.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by dj_patm

Im sorry to me it felt like I was literally watching a cartoon. Made for Kids.

In a way all these megabudget films ARE made for kids, because they need that audience. (Also the kids are the ones that buy the merchandise. So to succeed commercially a movie like Avatar simply has to appeal to kids as young as 13.

Not that it's such a horrible thing, a lot of us can find the kid inside us to enjoy a couple of hours of glitter and boom.

But when someone goes "OMG GREATEST MOVIE EVER" when talking about a movie like this, I just have to shake my head. (Funnily enough they make these "greatest movies ever" about once a year these days.)

There's more to movies than visuals. A PG-13 high production value sci-fi action flick can certainly be entertaining, but there's All That Other Stuff Too (great acting, dialogue, script and storytelling), and you can pretty much tell from the trailers that this is not going to make history in those categories. (Although you can't tell much about the story, but it hardly seems very original.)

So when someone goes "Greatest Movie Ever" over something like this, it pretty much means they're not that picky about the other stuff. WHICH IS TOTALLY OKAY BY ME.

It's just that this kind of hype has a negative correlation to my enjoyment of the film. For example I found Titanic to be so bad I'd rather turn the TV off and get bored to death (I was home alone sick, too tired to read and so on), and after Dark Knight I felt like my time was not only wasted, but I had actually payed money to get into a bad mood and have a brainache.

Still, I've yet to see a sci-fi flick that I hated that much, so I'm giving Avatar a chance despite the negative associations.

But I'll be surprised if I like it more than Primer, which had a budget of $7,000 and had to be watched twice just so I could get a basic idea of what happens in that movie.

[SebC]

Here's the thing... if District 9 was 3D, would anyone care about Avatar? It's great now because it's unique, but once its visual appeal becomes the norm, the movies people will remember will go back to being the ones with great stories. Nobody will ever be able to take away the fact that Avatar got there first, but I doubt it will have much lasting appeal.

[Sainters7]

Just saw it last night. Wow! So good! I seriously thought I wasn't gonna like it, as I'm not really the fantasy genre type. I was blown away, especially during the first half. Just reading some comments on here, and ya it did get a little cheesy near the end, but I thought all in all it was still a good movie. That and D9 so far have been my fav movies of the year(though I'm about to see The Blind Side in a couple hours, that may surpass it).

[Yeah_Baby]

Saw Avatar last night and was blown away. The world that Cameron created in Pandora was beautiful and dense. After the movie I kinda felt like when I was kid and saw Star Wars for the first time. Speaking of Star Wars, the density of the world added to the story as opposed to the Star Wars prequels where it was more of a 'dense' visual hodgepodge.

[RubberDuck]

Originally Posted by Itse

It's just that this kind of hype has a negative correlation to my enjoyment of the film. For example I found Titanic to be so bad I'd rather turn the TV off and get bored to death (I was home alone sick, too tired to read and so on), and after Dark Knight I felt like my time was not only wasted, but I had actually payed money to get into a bad mood and have a brainache.

Finally. I thought I was the only person in the world that wasn't "blown away" with Dark Knight. Hated Titanic, I couldn't sit through it all either.

I have the same concern about Avatar. It could not possibly live up to all the hype just like the previously mentioned films.

Maybe I should go see a movie on opeing day before the hype of the masses kills it for me. With Avatar, opening day would have probably been too late though.

[Yeah_Baby]

You are the first two people I've heard bad mouth The Dark Knight. I'll admit I haven't watched it in a while due to overload. But still.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

You are the first two people I've heard bad mouth The Dark Knight. I'll admit I haven't watched it in a while due to overload. But still.

Add me to the list too. Didn't think it was bad or anything, just kind of average and forgettable. I suppose I just don't really care for the dark super hero genre that seems to be in vogue at the moment. Super hero movies lose me when they try to take themselves too seriously.

[RubberDuck]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

Add me to the list too. Didn't think it was bad or anything, just kind of average and forgettable.

Same thoughts here. Not a bad movie, I'm not really bad mouthing it, it just wasn't as good as everyone made it out to be. It couldn't possibly meet my expectations after hearing the over the top praise heaped on it.

Personally, I liked Batman Begins much better but to be fair I didn't have the expectations of it that I had of the Dark Knight.

[BlackAce]

Avatar is just another Hollywood, CG, Blow up, big spectacle bs movie I thought and think

But I hated Titanic and every Cameron movie actually... and most anything that comes from Hollywood... It's all the same old crap IMO... If Hollywood isn't doing a bad remake of and old movie, comic, sitcom, book it is doing a movie the sheeple will herd to... Like Avatar... But that is just my opinion

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by BlackAce

Avatar is just another Hollywood, CG, Blow up, big spectacle bs movie I thought and think

But I hated Titanic and every Cameron movie actually... and most anything that comes from Hollywood... It's all the same old crap IMO... If Hollywood isn't doing a bad remake of and old movie, comic, sitcom, book it is doing a movie the sheeple will herd to... Like Avatar... But that is just my opinion

Have you seen it?

I didn't like Titanic and don't like most big production Hollywood movies either, but Avatar is just a ton of fun. If you sit there trying to pick apart the plot and worrying about the sometimes cheesy dialogue, you might be able to convince yourself to have a bad time, but why would you want to?

[BlackAce]

Originally Posted by gargamel

Have you seen it?

Parts... and the 8 minutes I saw bored me

Sorry... I just am not into that big Hollywood hype... each to their own... It's all good, I am sure it will make a killing and win a pot full of awards... Just not for me

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

Add me to the list too. Didn't think it was bad or anything, just kind of average and forgettable. I suppose I just don't really care for the dark super hero genre that seems to be in vogue at the moment. Super hero movies lose me when they try to take themselves too seriously.

Don't look at it as a super hero movie and you won't feel this way, because that film is far and away about more than some super heroes jumping around.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

Don't look at it as a super hero movie and you won't feel this way, because that film is far and away about more than some super heroes jumping around.

The Dark Knight is so much more than a 'superhero' movie. I totally agree.

Edit:

I hated Transformers 2. Does that still make me a sheeple? /eye roll

[burning_acid1]

I saw it last night; really enjoyed it!