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Old 12-11-2009, 11:10 AM   #761
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There is no way in HELL Tiger quits golf after this. No way, no how, not a friggin chance.

If Ellin says to him "it's golf or me" then Ellin will be shown the door rather quickly.

Not to say Tiger isn't going to do whatever it takes to fix his marriage. Just not at the expense of making history. He has worked his entire life to beat Jack Nicklaus' records. NOTHING is going to prevent him from at least giving it his best shot.

I appreciate marriage is important, but billions of people get married. Only one person can be the best golfer that ever lived. If Tiger is forced to choose between marriage or golf then I guarantee you golf wins.
Yeah, anything he says now about "doing everything to save his marriage" is for PR/endorsement contract purposes. Really, we already know what he thinks about his marriage.
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Old 12-11-2009, 11:12 AM   #762
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I dont think he will quit either. He doesn't seem like the smartest guy in the world. How else would he make any money for future hos with no education.
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Old 12-11-2009, 11:26 AM   #763
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I'm actuallt surprised it's all stayed this quiet until now.
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Old 12-11-2009, 11:33 AM   #764
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One of our esteemed members, himself looking to become a golf pro I believe, a few years ago was trying to argue that playing 36 holes of golf was the equivalent of running a marathon. That was a real hoot.
He's not really that far off though:

http://golf.about.com/od/fitnessheal...lfphysical.htm

Walking 9 holes either carrying your clubs or using a push cart will burn around 720 calories. So 36 holes of golf will burn roughly 2900 calories. That's rpretty much the same amount someone running a 26 mile marathon would burn. Granted, the time frames are different, but that's the nature of each.

My question for you is what is your criteria for defining a sport? You say athleticism, I broke that down about 3 pages back in this thread using simply dictionary definitions and found that golf is technically defined as a sport through that high level of hand-eye coordination, or physical dexterity, you speak of (among other things).

Is a 100m dash, where a person only burns 5 calories, more of a sport than golf, where a person burns hundreds of more calories than that?
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Old 12-11-2009, 11:45 AM   #765
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Maybe Tiger WILL quite golf.... for a bit, perhaps its in a bit to repair his image.. if he quits, then people will probalby start thinking:

A) That he's nto so bad, willing to give up on the sport he loves to fix his marriage.

B) the PGA ratings will hit the ter, so everyone will be begging to have him back.
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Old 12-11-2009, 11:54 AM   #766
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My question for you is what is your criteria for defining a sport?
Oh I'm sure there are tons of people on this board that could swing an 8iron at 105MPH, hitting a little white ball in the air for 180 yards while putting it within a few feet of a cup that is a little over 4" wide.

It make not be a physical sport but it takes a fit person to play at a high level now. I know people will point to John Daly the fatty or Tom Watson the 59 year old but when is the last time they actually won a tournament?
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He's not really that far off though:

http://golf.about.com/od/fitnessheal...lfphysical.htm

Walking 9 holes either carrying your clubs or using a push cart will burn around 720 calories. So 36 holes of golf will burn roughly 2900 calories. That's rpretty much the same amount someone running a 26 mile marathon would burn. Granted, the time frames are different, but that's the nature of each.

My question for you is what is your criteria for defining a sport? You say athleticism, I broke that down about 3 pages back in this thread using simply dictionary definitions and found that golf is technically defined as a sport through that high level of hand-eye coordination, or physical dexterity, you speak of (among other things).

Is a 100m dash, where a person only burns 5 calories, more of a sport than golf, where a person burns hundreds of more calories than that?
That's probably 2-3 more calories than a dh would burn in a mlb game.

I would argue that golf at a competitive level does require a great amount of athletic conditioning. Specifically, you are not going to be able to hit 300 yard drives, high spin wedge shots, shots out of the rough etc. without very strong core muscles, leg muscles, wrist muscles,etc. Just because some of these guys look fat and out of shape doesn't mean they haven't developed the muscles required for a tour golf swing. You're not going to be able to hit 500 practice balls a day at the range, unless the required muscles very well conditioned. You're not going to be able to keep your accuracy through 40 swings/day for 4 days if you are not well conditioned.

Same as an mlb pitcher, they may look fat and out of shape, but I guarantee you that the muscles used to throw are a lot more developed in David Wells, than some other similarly built guy who just watches baseball on tv.
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He's not really that far off though:

http://golf.about.com/od/fitnessheal...lfphysical.htm

Walking 9 holes either carrying your clubs or using a push cart will burn around 720 calories. So 36 holes of golf will burn roughly 2900 calories. That's rpretty much the same amount someone running a 26 mile marathon would burn. Granted, the time frames are different, but that's the nature of each.

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My answer today is the same as it was then . . . . . I've golfed 36 holes and I've run a marathon and any comparison of the physical effort required for the two is absolutely ludicrous.

A fat fata can walk/golf 36 holes in a row with reasonable competence but might not get past the five km mark on a 42 km marathon without starting to walk. But the marathoner can also walk/golf those 36 holes without much stress at all too.

That's the reality.

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My question for you is what is your criteria for defining a sport? You say athleticism, I broke that down about 3 pages back in this thread using simply dictionary definitions and found that golf is technically defined as a sport through that high level of hand-eye coordination, or physical dexterity, you speak of (among other things).

Is a 100m dash, where a person only burns 5 calories, more of a sport than golf, where a person burns hundreds of more calories than that?
Really?

You want to compare the relative athleticism, and all of the training required to achieve their elite status, of Usain Bolt with that of Tiger Woods?

Good luck with that.

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Is this picture taken before or after he ran a marathon?
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:43 PM   #770
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By this definition:

Sport - Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively

Golf is undeniably a sport.

And just because overweight people can excel, that doesn't mean it's less of a sport. Overweight people compete in professional baseball, a number of the Olympic field events, and of course Sumo wrestling. All of which, most would agree, are sports.
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:50 PM   #771
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You want to compare the relative athleticism, and all of the training required to achieve their elite status, of Usain Bolt with that of Tiger Woods?

Good luck with that.

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Actually, without doing a second of research, I would bet Tiger has put more time into achieving elite status than Usain. Tiger started when he was a child.
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:53 PM   #772
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Actually, without doing a second of research, I would bet Tiger has put more time into achieving elite status than Usain. Tiger started when he was a child.
and Usain did not run until he was 15! he just walked everywhere as a child.
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Golf is a sport, it's just not a very good one.
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Golf is a sport, it's just not a very good one.
on the totem poles baseball will be on the bottom of the Sports totem. and golf will be at the top of the Games totem.
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Old 12-11-2009, 01:30 PM   #775
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It's absolutely a sport. Be it playing hockey for an hour or walking an 18 hole golf course, my swack can't tell the difference.
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I think a person should be able to sue someone who sleeps with their spouse while knowing he/she is married for the pain and suffering. There is no question they cause pain and suffering. This wouldn't negate the responsibility of the spouse who could still be sued for divorce. Also, you couldn't allow a lawsuit if the adultery didn't result in divorce otherwise your partner in crime would indirectly benefit from his or her adultery.
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I think a person should be able to sue someone who sleeps with their spouse while knowing he/she is married for the pain and suffering. There is no question they cause pain and suffering. This wouldn't negate the responsibility of the spouse who could still be sued for divorce. Also, you couldn't allow a lawsuit if the adultery didn't result in divorce otherwise your partner in crime would indirectly benefit from his or her adultery.
Puh-lease. Sue someone that knowing slept with someone who is married? Because they cause pain and suffering? I've seen you post some wacky things here, but this takes the cake.
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I think a person should be able to sue someone who sleeps with their spouse while knowing he/she is married for the pain and suffering. There is no question they cause pain and suffering. This wouldn't negate the responsibility of the spouse who could still be sued for divorce. Also, you couldn't allow a lawsuit if the adultery didn't result in divorce otherwise your partner in crime would indirectly benefit from his or her adultery.
Can I sue you for the pain and suffering you've caused me by being impervious to logic and unfailingly judgmental in every post? What, the idea is ridiculous? How strange...
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Gatorade dropped Tiger Woods sports drink because it’d be tasteless to say “Is it in you?”
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Golf is a sport, it's just not a very good one.
Same can be said about the CFL.
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