This photo is ridiculous. Death is gross. You could put up the same close-up-style photo of a cow/chicken/pig/etc. dead and it would be just as nasty.
How about some war dead? Do you support our troops? Do you want to see some photos of Afghanis Canadians have killed? I bet it's awful but IIRC you are in favour of the war in Afghanistan (apologies if I'm wrong here).
The point is showing a gross picture is obviously going to shock some people, but it's a cheap trick and does nothing to foster sensible discussion on the topic.
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This photo is ridiculous. Death is gross. You could put up the same close-up-style photo of a cow/chicken/pig/etc. dead and it would be just as nasty.
How about some war dead? Do you support our troops? Do you want to see some photos of Afghanis Canadians have killed? I bet it's awful but IIRC you are in favour of the war in Afghanistan (apologies if I'm wrong here).
The point is showing a gross picture is obviously going to shock some people, but it's a cheap trick and does nothing to foster sensible discussion on the topic.
I was emphasising the method of killing. Do we need to repeadly beat a seal over the head with a club? Why not use a gun and a shot to the head? Wouldn't that be more humane?
I was emphasising the method of killing. Do we need to repeadly beat a seal over the head with a club? Why not use a gun and a shot to the head? Wouldn't that be more humane?
I don't know, would it? I watched Food Inc. yesterday and the horrible conditions most of your typical "farm" animals live in (e.g. chickens that are fattened up too fast for their bones and organs to keep pace with so they can't even walk; not to mention the horrible conditions in which they live aside from their poor health) are way worse than the life of a seal.
I suspect a hit or two is all it takes to kill a seal - if it was more than that it would be inefficient. Is decapitation better? I kind of doubt it. Your brain is still alive for a while staring at your headless body. A bashed in brain? You're probably gone a lot faster.
Either way, it's a nasty business for us city folk, but animals die all the time to feed and clothe us. I think your PETA-style shock tactic of a heart-wrenching image is a dishonest way to debate this. That's just my opinion of course, and you can do whatever you want. I'm sure you knew there would be a response when you posted that pic.
You know better than to post pics like that Dion, and to quote the picture and then complain about it doesn't make much sense either. Link to stuff like that.
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Seal pelts are graded based on their condition (A,B, C, D..). Clubbing was done to protect the pelt from damage thus making it worth more. Shooting a seal damages the pelt too much. A big bullet hole in the pelt drops the value of it significantly.
Seal meat is really greasy but is quite tasty. Its fairly rich.
Seal fur is very warm and really protects against extreme cold. I wear seal skin mitts all the time. My fiance made them for me (she is Inuit).
Contrary to what a lot of people think, there are not a lot of seals in the North, not like there are in the waters around Newfoundland. I actually bought 4 pelts in NL and brought them back to the North so that I could get some mitts made.
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It's only because the seals are cute that we have this issue. Truly.
I disagree. I believe that it's only because seals are cute that we have the issue of the EU banning certain Canadian products. But the issue of humane vs inhumane hunting, humane vs inhumane livestock rearing, or even the issue of ethical vegetarianism vs eating meat are "issues" even though quail and cows aren't "cute".
Puppies are much easier to club... No ridiculous amount of travel... They don't move as much as those dang seals... Takes a few more to make mittens... but taste a little like, um, dog
... but ya gotta hit'em just right... right between the horns!
Puppies are much easier to club... No ridiculous amount of travel... They don't move as much as those dang seals... Takes a few more to make mittens... but taste a little like, um, dog
... but ya gotta hit'em just right... right between the horns!
Plus they totally trust you and will come over to you when you call them. You don't even have to leave your couch to commence with the clubbin.
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Puppies are much easier to club... No ridiculous amount of travel... They don't move as much as those dang seals... Takes a few more to make mittens... but taste a little like, um, dog
... but ya gotta hit'em just right... right between the horns!
Yea, but the thing about puppies is that they really don't yield much meat. I can barely feed me and the woman on one puppy. But a baby cow? I can invite all my boys over and everyone gets a swing and a steak.
Yea, but the thing about puppies is that they really don't yield much meat. I can barely feed me and the woman on one puppy. But a baby cow? I can invite all my boys over and everyone gets a swing and a steak.
Can I come over and have a swing too? The puppy steaks are certainly small to feed a family... without touring the neighbourhood at least
The puppy steaks are certainly small to feed a family... without touring the neighbourhood at least
