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Old 11-15-2009, 09:52 PM   #2221
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I knew you'd show up at the end of this thing. If not for Bill's stupid call, this game is over. Brady was clearly the better QB tonight. 1 fumble and a stupid playcall change the outcome.
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Good game. I thought the Colts were screwed when The Pats seemed to be able to march the field, but both teams made adjustments and the Colts adjustments were better.
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Eventhough I still think NE takes the AFC east with ease, tonights loss does make it a little more interesting in the AFC East.
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:54 PM   #2224
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Not sure how you can love a coach basically saying our defense sucks too much to make a big stop with 2 mins left in the game.
Easy, the Pat's D looked tired and the Colt's were having there way with them by the end of the game. You have confidence in your offense so you roll with it. I also thought it was exciting, and if successful puts away the game.

I'm not Colts/Pats fanboy so I've got nothing riding on the game other then entertainment, and you can't tell me it wasn't an entertaining call...
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:57 PM   #2225
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Easy, the Pat's D looked tired and the Colt's were having there way with them by the end of the game. You have confidence in your offense so you roll with it. I also thought it was exciting, and if successful puts away the game.

I'm not Colts/Pats fanboy so I've got nothing riding on the game other then entertainment, and you can't tell me it wasn't an entertaining call...
I like the call from an entertainment stand point as well.

I think that the Colts had at least 1 TO so if the Pats go 3 and out it doesn't completely put away the game.
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:59 PM   #2226
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I knew you'd show up at the end of this thing. If not for Bill's stupid call, this game is over. Brady was clearly the better QB tonight. 1 fumble and a stupid playcall change the outcome.
I didn't show up at all during the game (Colts scored first and took a 7-0 lead and you didn't see me post) because I was watching with friends.

Also, no question NE outplayed Indy until the 4th quarter but good teams find a way to win games. Was it a stupid call? Absolutely. But the game was not over if they punted like you claim. We still have about 2 minutes and 3 timeouts. With Manning at QB i'd like our chances to score, but no question that the call made it a lot easier to get the winning TD for sure.

That's how much respect Belichick has for Manning. He didn't feel confident in his defense to stop Manning.
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:06 PM   #2227
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Eventhough I still think NE takes the AFC east with ease, tonights loss does make it a little more interesting in the AFC East.
I despise them, but The Patriots are 10 times better then any other team in that division.

They will finish 12-4 IMO and win the division easily.
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:06 PM   #2228
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they had 1 timeout left, no?
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:09 PM   #2229
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they had 1 timeout left, no?
Yeah you are right. 1 TO and would have had just under 2 minutes to go 70-80 yards rather then 30 yards.

Stupid call by BB. They should have gone to Welker in one of those short 5 yard routes. That guy is solid on those plays.
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I'm still pissed. Grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory. Did the moron even show up for the post game press conference?
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:19 PM   #2231
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I'm still pissed. Grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory. Did the moron even show up for the post game press conference?
Watching it right now.....
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:23 PM   #2232
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The only plus from today's game is that maybe now the talking heads on sports radio here STFU about "Play Simms!". I wish they'd have given Brandstater a shot, Simms was Russellian in his terribleness.

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The dumbest coaching move I've ever seen in my life. 1 timeout and potentially 80 yards to drive??
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:26 PM   #2234
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The only plus from today's game is that maybe now the talking heads on sports radio here STFU about "Play Simms!". I wish they'd have given Brandstater a shot, Simms was Russellian in his terribleness.
The way Orton was challenging down the field in the first half I felt really good about them blowing the game open in the second. I hope that ankle heals fast.
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:51 PM   #2235
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Belichick is getting blasted by the media and the Patriots message board.

I have a lot of respect for Brady but I do not for Belichick.
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Old 11-15-2009, 11:01 PM   #2236
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Gotta give that GB D some credit too...they are playing lights out.
Today was really the first day that Capers played the D that he started to advertise in the offseason. He brought blitzes all throughout the game and from everywhere. I think the players stepped up, but Capers did in a bigger way. far more exotic blitzes and much better mixing of his blitzes. And he also brought it right until the end rather than giving up.
Huge game by Charles Woodson so i have to believe will win Defensive player of the week. 2 forced fumbles, interception,sack, and team leading 9 tackets. Huge game from Woodson.
At least the Pack finally figured out that having Rodgers do 3 and 5 step drops and trying to hit a big play doens't work with the offensive line they have. The quick passing game at least stunted the Dallas pass rush early and allowed rodgers some more time, althought still not enough.
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Old 11-15-2009, 11:05 PM   #2237
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Thought this was an interesting read. Reminds me of the Roy-Brodeur or Yzerman-Sakic debates people have.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/33937274/ns/sports-nfl/

The 20 Hall of Fame QB's were asked which QB is better:

Voting results
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For Peyton Manning: (13˝ votes)

Troy Aikman (Class of ’06), George Blanda (’81), Len Dawson (’87), Dan Fouts (’93), Bob Griese (’90), Sonny Jurgensen (‘83), Jim Kelly (’02), Warren Moon (’06), Joe Namath (‘85), Clarence (Ace) Parker (’72), Fran Tarkenton (’86), Y.A. Tittle (’71), Charley Trippi (’68). Joe Montana (’00) (second half)

For Tom Brady: (2˝ votes)
Terry Bradshaw (’89), John Elway (’04), Joe Montana (first half)

Abstain(4): Dan Marino (’05), Bart Starr (’77), Roger Staubach (’85), Steve Young (’05)
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Old 11-15-2009, 11:33 PM   #2238
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does the first half second half for Montana mean that he thinks brady is the better first falf but manning is the better 2nd half guy?
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Old 11-15-2009, 11:43 PM   #2239
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Joey Porter was inactive today and it was a coach's decision, not an injury. He was told to stay away from the facility till Monday.

Are Joey's days done in Miami I think so, but my guess is he won't get released till the end of the year.

Looks like the tuna and sporano had enough of joey's trashtalking help motivate the Pats and he did nothing to back it up.
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does the first half second half for Montana mean that he thinks brady is the better first falf but manning is the better 2nd half guy?
I think it was his way of abstaining.

Personally, I think it's a dumb question. They're both great. Lets wait until they're done playing to decide who is better.
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