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Old 11-09-2009, 03:03 PM   #281
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What an embarassing dive by Ngog, complete crap player
but ... but .... Liverpool NEVER dive.

Hope they suspend him for that.
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Old 11-09-2009, 03:14 PM   #282
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http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=3282272

Only replay I could find for now. Definitely deserves a few matches off.
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:43 PM   #283
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No, actually the Respect campaign has just as much to do with the highest levels of the game and not just the types of people described above. There have been countless TV, radio and print adverts with all sorts of Premiership and Championship players and managers - all of whom are advocating the need to respect fellow players and match officials. Ironically, John Terry was featured in a few of them and even he noted his own personal behaviors were inappropriate.

And as a purely objective Premiership viewer (my FA allegiances lie elsewhere), I find it difficult to believe that even the most indoctrinated United fan can argue the point that each and every penalty awarded for a foul on Ronaldo was fair and just.

I'm also not sure what is meant by subordinate's legacy? Is there one in particular? Or every other Premiership manager of the past 17 years, because you sure couldn't count Mourhino in that category.

Fergie could provide a unique perspective on the game in general if he so chose. Since he has been around the top flight since 1986 and has won, he could be the voice of reason concerning this particular issue. People (and by this I mean players, fans, pundits, wags, commentators and general media folk) would have more respect for his opinions and thoughts if he was making a case for the game in general, and not merely bemoaning decisions that he feels goes against his side. Now that would be behavior worthy of someone who has "repeatedly demonstrated the highest consistent standards", no?
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Old 11-09-2009, 07:15 PM   #284
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Nope, respect campaign is more grass-roots. Didn't you yourself say the problem was with the no of grass-root referees leaving?

As for your last point it might be a point if Fergie was a pundit or not directly involved with a club. The fact of the matter is he is a manager (and a very successful one at that) of a premier league team with a vested interest in the success of his team. As such his comments will always be calculated to serve in the best interests of the club. You want an ambassador for football then get someone else.

Anyways ... all the whining about the whining is fun. At the end of the day do you honestly think he cares less about the whiners that whine at his whining when he's winning?

As the saying goes ... show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser.
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Old 11-09-2009, 09:12 PM   #285
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What an embarassing dive by Ngog, complete crap player
As a lifelong Liverpool fan I have to say that that was a total embarrassment to me as a fan. Quite honestly I would rather have lost than tie the match in such a way.

I truly believe he deserves a suspension for that. It should have no place in the game.
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Old 11-09-2009, 11:27 PM   #286
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Yeah, that was bad for sure. Hopefully Ngog doesn't plan to pull that crap again.

As far as the respect campaign...Rafa got a warning for making a gesture with his glasses. At worst, he implied that he missed something on the field. Ferguson calls out the officiating after every single game that his team doesn't win. It took him questioning a ref's fitness (who ran more than 7 of United's players that game) before he got in trouble for it.
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Big news over here right now. Has shocked the footballing world.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ls/8353964.stm
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Not a good week for goalies and transportation systems.

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Tottenham Hotspur goalkeeper Carlo Cudicini has suffered "potentially life-changing injuries" in a motorbike accident in east London, police said.He was taken to hospital after his BMW bike was involved in a collision with a car in Walthamstow at about 1030 GMT.
He has fractured his wrists and injured his pelvis but a spokesman for the north London club said they were still waiting for hospital test results.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/8357262.stm

Just as well Gomes is back.
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Not a good week for goalies and transportation systems.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/8357262.stm

Just as well Gomes is back.
Terrible for him and as his family, but yeah, Gomes has been stellar lately.
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Old 11-12-2009, 10:19 AM   #290
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And as a purely objective Premiership viewer (my FA allegiances lie elsewhere), ....
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..being criticized and second-guessed by imbecilic, petulant cry-baby managers like this.
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I can't be too critical as those adjectives have been in short supply in Chavchester since the days of Matt Busby.
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was impressed with what Rooney said, no so much for what he said but that he was actually able to count to 12.
Yup. Those are definitely the telltale signs of objectivity.

And I don't think you will find many United fans that will defend Ronaldo's antics - especially in the early years. He cleaned up his act somewhat but was embarrassing at first...kind of like Nani - I hope he gets sold off asap.
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Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has received a two-match touchline ban for his comments about referee Alan Wiley's fitness.
The Football Association handed the 67-year-old a four-game ban, with two of those suspended until the end of the 2010/11 season.
Ferguson has also been fined £20,000 and warned about his future conduct.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...td/8314326.stm

All for critiquing and speaking out about sub-standard performances. You'd think he'd be charging the FA for his opinions on these blind dogs that are collecting paycheques on a weekly basis.

Ah, well, suppose some people will be happy that they can continue to watch games where refereeing fitness and errors determine the results with no accountability.

Standards ... all about standards.

Anyone know if he's allowed to use 2-way radios from the stand?
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Yup. Those are definitely the telltale signs of objectivity.

And I don't think you will find many United fans that will defend Ronaldo's antics - especially in the early years. He cleaned up his act somewhat but was embarrassing at first...kind of like Nani - I hope he gets sold off asap.
Seeing how i do not categorize myself as a fan of any one Premiership side, I would say that I am an impartial observer, not influenced by personal feelings and/or club loyalties and without allegiance to any of the clubs currently in the EPL. Don't feel too bad, I just felt like picking on Man U and Fergie in particular this week. Next week it'll be someone else. Spurs are always an easy target.
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All for critiquing and speaking out about sub-standard performances. You'd think he'd be charging the FA for his opinions on these blind dogs that are collecting paycheques on a weekly basis.

Ah, well, suppose some people will be happy that they can continue to watch games where refereeing fitness and errors determine the results with no accountability.

Standards ... all about standards.

Anyone know if he's allowed to use 2-way radios from the stand?
Not sure if he can communicate himself, but probably someone close to him will be able to do it.

Do you think that this most recent fine and ban was enacted because he is a repeat offender? I wonder if the FA takes things like previous fines/suspensions into account?
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All for critiquing and speaking out about sub-standard performances. You'd think he'd be charging the FA for his opinions on these blind dogs that are collecting paycheques on a weekly basis.

Ah, well, suppose some people will be happy that they can continue to watch games where refereeing fitness and errors determine the results with no accountability.

Standards ... all about standards.

Anyone know if he's allowed to use 2-way radios from the stand?

Alan Wiley's fitness had nothing to do with united's embarassing performance against Sunderland, what made him make these comments then?
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Old 11-13-2009, 08:35 PM   #295
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Alan Wiley's fitness had nothing to do with united's embarassing performance against Sunderland, what made him make these comments then?
Because that doesn't take away that he observed him huffing and puffing through the game and not being able to keep up with the pace.

I don't believe he blamed or even suggested that Wiley had anything to do with their performance. I don't think anyone is suggesting he did.

He observed on and commented on his fitness and was subsequently punished for an honest observation.
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Because that doesn't take away that he observed him huffing and puffing through the game and not being able to keep up with the pace.

I don't believe he blamed or even suggested that Wiley had anything to do with their performance. I don't think anyone is suggesting he did.

He observed on and commented on his fitness and was subsequently punished for an honest observation.
One observation which was incorrect. It's been documented that Wiley covered more ground than all but 4 of United's players that day.....
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One observation which was incorrect. It's been documented that Wiley covered more ground than all but 4 of United's players that day.....
I honestly don't get what that's got to do with it. I'm willing to bet that holds true for most games. The observation was that he wasn't fit and not able to keep up with the pace.

Anyways ... we could go round and round on this. I fail to see how a manager commenting on an observation that a referee struggled to keep up with the game is that big a deal.

Considering comparitively the things that go unpunished.



Glasses and 4th official too young. 2:19 onwards.




It's one thing to question fitness yet to question eyesight and age (experience) is fair game? Would Fergie by these standards have escaped if he had simply said that Wiley was "too old"?
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I honestly don't get what that's got to do with it. I'm willing to bet that holds true for most games. The observation was that he wasn't fit and not able to keep up with the pace.

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I agree with you about the little strawman they did there. Totally won an argument that nobody made.
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Van Persie out 6 weeks after suffering ankle injury in Holland game.

http://www.football365.com/story/0,1...698333,00.html

Heartbreaking news if your an Arsenal fan. Not sure if they will be able to keep pace without one of the best strikers in the premiership.
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Van Persie out 6 weeks after suffering ankle injury in Holland game.

http://www.football365.com/story/0,1...698333,00.html

Heartbreaking news if your an Arsenal fan. Not sure if they will be able to keep pace without one of the best strikers in the premiership.
http://www.football365.com/story/0,1...699048,00.html

And with some very...VERY bizarre rehab on the way....
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