I've been a "working guitarist" most of my life, saw it, and it was decent. I must say it pained me to see Jack White lumped in there...I think he's mediocre and don't care for his sound (especially his voice) personally. Would have liked to at least have more Page than White, which was not the case at all. In reference to Matty C's comment about the Edge, I wouldn't say he gets much love from the guitar world at all. In the movie he demonstrates how simple his guitar parts are without effects actually. I personally respect him a lot for his innovation, he changed the way all modern guitarists use delay pedals. I'd say if you love guitars go see the movie, just be prepared to sit through some boring parts.
I concur. Most "great" bands have a "great" bassist on staff. 98% of bands I hear have mediocre bassists who merely pound the beat out.
Red Hot Chilli Peppers are blessed with an amazing bassist (Flea) as well as a gifted guitarist. The synergy between those two players rivals jazz musicians.
Rivals jazz musicians like the guys in the italian restaurant down the street? I respect jazz, but you can have just as much synergy in rock without Flea and Frusciante......
I've been a "working guitarist" most of my life, saw it, and it was decent. I must say it pained me to see Jack White lumped in there...I think he's mediocre and don't care for his sound (especially his voice) personally. Would have liked to at least have more Page than White, which was not the case at all. In reference to Matty C's comment about the Edge, I wouldn't say he gets much love from the guitar world at all. In the movie he demonstrates how simple his guitar parts are without effects actually. I personally respect him a lot for his innovation, he changed the way all modern guitarists use delay pedals. I'd say if you love guitars go see the movie, just be prepared to sit through some boring parts.
My sentiments exactly. Every time I listen to a Jack white album, I enjoy it, but never have any desire to listen to it again, he's pretty 2-D.
The only modern guitarist that is accomplishing anything profound is Omar Rodriguez-Lopez, who managed to re-invent both punk with 'at the drive in' and prog-rock with 'the Mars volta'.
I read up on the Edge's stage set-up, the man has ~32 different delay rack units. He really was able to re-invent the instrument, but not in a technical sense. His style is pretty inaccessible to the average guitarist, due to the shear cost of equipment, so he kind of gets swept under the rug for that.
Also, where is the David Gilmour love? He's easily my favourite classic rock guitarist and one of the few who avoided becoming a parody of himself in his old age.
Heard some good things but I'm also disappointed that Jack White is who they selected to represent the 90s or the new generation. He's alright but should not be be standing beside Page and Edge in any setting.
Jack White is the man. The best at making pure rock music in the business today. It's not about who can play their instrument with the greatest expertise and dexterity, it's who can create the best, most compelling music. Rock is power, not virtuosity.
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Jack White is the man. The best at making pure rock music in the business today. It's not about who can play their instrument with the greatest expertise and dexterity, it's who can create the best, most compelling music. Rock is power, not virtuosity.
Really, he just writes great songs. Thats what any of these guys do. If you can shred a million notes a minute but can't really write a song that connects with people, its all for not anyways. People get caught up in slamming people like Jack White and Kurt Cobain for their guitar skills, but really, its how they use their ability in the frame of their songwriting. If all people cared about was technical ability, the fat guy in shorts in the youtube clip from the previous page would be a number one selling artist.
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I don't think many on here are so much dissing White's guitar skills or saying that one must shred to be good. My experience in music is almost the exact opposite. The sweetness lies in one's songwriting intuition and their ability to listen to and play with others. Now......Jack White a songwriting legend? Must. Take. DeepbreathsorI'llexplode.
Please go listen to "Hotel Yorba" or "The Hardest Button to Button" a couple times with an empty bucket by your side and then thank me later for suggesting the bucket be there when you need it. I feel like his strategy as a songwriter is to annoy the listener into a state of confusion where they just accept his music as decent. Then after a few more listens you don't notice the horrible tone of his voice and you know the songs. Next thing you know you're even willing to accept Meg White as a passable drummer for a rock band. </rant>
I like 7 Nation Army, but Audioslave's live version is sooooo much better. The reason for that lies in the fact that Chris Cornell is a ripping vocalist oozing with soul and natural ability. I'm sorry if I offended any White Stripes fans, I will admit that my hatred for them blossomed when Jack White made Rolling Stone's list of the most influential guitarists of all time.
David Gilmour, like Mark Knopfler, understands the importance of tone more than any other guitarist still alive (we miss you, Stevie).
I agree that The Edge's rig is absolutely ridiculous, but I'm always amazed at what a Boss DD-6 can do as far as delay is concerned. That and a PH-2 are the only pedals I use live.
Mars Volta are obviously in the shred zone, but man can they shred. I take a lot of heat for this due to the singer's feminine voice (I justify him as the modern Geddy Lee), and I'm a little biased because I've played with them before, but Coheed and Cambria absolutely rock it as well. I love their transitions.
I don't think many on here are so much dissing White's guitar skills or saying that one must shred to be good. My experience in music is almost the exact opposite. The sweetness lies in one's songwriting intuition and their ability to listen to and play with others. Now......Jack White a songwriting legend? Must. Take. DeepbreathsorI'llexplode.
Please go listen to "Hotel Yorba" or "The Hardest Button to Button" a couple times with an empty bucket by your side and then thank me later for suggesting the bucket be there when you need it. I feel like his strategy as a songwriter is to annoy the listener into a state of confusion where they just accept his music as decent. Then after a few more listens you don't notice the horrible tone of his voice and you know the songs. Next thing you know you're even willing to accept Meg White as a passable drummer for a rock band. </rant>
I like 7 Nation Army, but Audioslave's live version is sooooo much better. The reason for that lies in the fact that Chris Cornell is a ripping vocalist oozing with soul and natural ability. I'm sorry if I offended any White Stripes fans, I will admit that my hatred for them blossomed when Jack White made Rolling Stone's list of the most influential guitarists of all time.
Did you hear Chris Cornell's last album? Whatever soul he had was lost shortly after Soundgarden broke up.
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"I was like Christ, lying on my back, with my arms outstretched, crucified"
-- Frank Musil - Early January 1994
Did you hear Chris Cornell's last album? Whatever soul he had was lost shortly after Soundgarden broke up.
Haha, funny you should ask. Audioslave's first album was great, I saw them live in Boston on Halloween 4 years ago and they killed it. Did 4 Soundgarden songs and 4 Rage songs along with most of the stuff on their first album.
Chris Cornell's first solo album Euphoria Morning, is incredible. I listen to it all the time and have for years.
Last Halloween I went to the Fillmore here in SF to see Chris Cornell solo, and I'll have to agree with you, that album sucks. Timbaland was on stage with him that night, as well as producing that album, and I think that combo is best summed up with one word.......MISTAKE!
I almost got arrested at the end for screaming at them to play some Soundgarden (they did play Burden in My Hand, but that was little consolation). Chris Cornell is in the top 10 rock vocalists of all time, top 5 if you're going on pure ability IMHO.
Damn right Jimmy Page is awesome, setting aside the fact that the entire first Zeppelin album was stolen he did eventually write some of the best rock songs of all time. I also couldn't help thinking how he looks like a Grandma now but pulled insane trim back in "the day", that guy had quite a life. Loved his listening room with the custom cabinets packed with CDs and LPs plus the incredible gear room.
The Edge is a very intelligent player and seemingly quite a decent guy. I've always been a moderate U2 fan, always perk up my ears when they release something new. Used to play some songs off Joshua Tree in my old cover band, fun stuff.
I don't mind Jack White, great songwriter and I actually really like his singing voice but you could just tell he was a bit uncomfortable next to Page and Edge. I mean, who wouldn't be next to those guys, but his posturing and fake tough guy grimace gave him away. Although, in an era full of limpwristed guitar and Nickelback/Creed vocals I am damn glad that this guy is out there.
Slash or Tom Morello would have been better choices. Slash is blues based rock guitarist who had incredible success during the 90s and is an icon, would have meshed well with Page. Morello broke ground on the guitar with Rage and would have been a nice contrast to both Page and Edge if the director wanted to go that way.
Best moment in the film, watching the Edge and White's faces when Page busted into "Whole Lot of Love" right in front of them.
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Must. Take. DeepbreathsorI'llexplode. 
I take a lot of heat for this due to the singer's feminine voice (I justify him as the modern Geddy Lee), and I'm a little biased because I've played with them before, but Coheed and Cambria absolutely rock it as well. I love their transitions.
