No Sir, you cannot make those Poppy shaped Cookies

[Day Tripper]

Originally Posted by pylon

Quoted for sheer humor factor.

By the way, I already have the copyright on potatoes, and some other idiot company seems to think they own the moon.

http://www.lunarregistry.com/

"John Lennon honoured with Peace Crater on the moon."

I'm going to copyright John Lennon.

[Jedi Ninja]

While reading through this thread, the Pink Ribbon campaign for breast cancer came to mind. There is another organization that has a copyrighted symbol and has a totally different approach to managing and merchandising their symbol. I'm pretty sure they'd sue you too if you tried to make pink ribbon cookies. The difference with the Pink Ribbon people is that they totally sell out their symbol to any company who is willing to pay. I've seen dozens and dozens of products being sold in stores now with the pink ribbon symbol including, sadly, pink toilet paper. I think I like the Veteran's approach better.

[Rifleman]

You can't claim intellectual property on a flower. If you could, everyone would be claiming copyright on pumpkins, roses, daisies, etc. If someone created a towing company called Poppy towing company, there would be nothing wrong with that.

What's at odds here though, is someone using the same symbol as a tribute to a war veteran. And that's when it crosses the line from being just a flower into being a trademark.

Think about it from a hockey standpoint. If someone started a towing company called "Fire C" towing company, with a flaming C for a logo, it would probably be fine, so long as it didn't look similar to the Calgary Flames logo. But if you were to start a pro hockey team called the Flaming C's, or if you were going to sell hockey equipment with that name, then you're probably NOT going to be ok.

The cookies dude no doubt had good intentions, but in my opinion, he violated a trademark in a similar industry, in this case, having to do with remembrance of war veterans.

If he had just sold the cookies as poppy cookies, the Legion couldn't do $#!+. But as of now, the Legion have a very winnable case if it goes to court.

[HawkEGoon]

Think Before You PINK

Originally Posted by Jedi Ninja

The difference with the Pink Ribbon people is that they totally sell out their symbol to any company who is willing to pay. I've seen dozens and dozens of products being sold in stores now with the pink ribbon symbol.

The breast cancer-specific packaging is more an indication of savvy marketing than corporate benevolence. Breast cancer is a disease. Not a marketing opportunity. In some cases, there's no guarantee at all that part of your purchase price will go to a charity; a generous estimate is less than 5% of ALL monies raised actuually go to prevention including research.

Exploiting a devastating disease in order to reap greater profits — while pretending it's all about funding research, at least until you're directly questioned about the fine print — may be legal and may even be "good business," but man, is it ever Slimey.

The PINK RiBBON is an AWARENESS ribbon , that's all.

"F&ck awareness. Find and release a cure."

[HOOT]

I just played a game of golf with a vet and he was wearing his poppy on his hat the whole round.

He told me "In today's selfish world we should just be happy people are wearing them." and I asked him what he thought about me having a poppy up all year on my visor and his words were "That's great!".

[4X4]

Originally Posted by HOOT

He told me "In today's selfish world we should just be happy people are wearing them." and I asked him what he thought about me having a poppy up all year on my visor and his words were "That's great!".

Good. I always stick my poppy in my visor and it remains there until some windy summer day when I've got my windows open and I'm driving fast.
Glad to know I'm not being disrespectful.

[Dasani]

I never wear a poppy come November 11th. Instead, I support the troops by constantly lobbying for improved benefits and body armour for troops deployed overseas. I think it is very disingenuous to throw a poppy on your lapel for one week out of the year and consider yourself a patriot. If you really cared, you'd lobby your elected politicians to provide tax payer funding to support these people. Look at how many homeless veterans there are out there. It is a disgrace that in a country as rich as Canada that we have this problem.

[burn_this_city]

Why not do both?

[Dasani]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Why not do both?

Good question. I guess I think I'm better than that.

[burn_this_city]

Obviously you're just full of crap about lobbying for veterans rights. Explain how you do this lobbying. Write letters, go on a hunger strike? Or just make up stuff on the internet to sound like a righteous do gooder? Who is little more than an idealistic flake..

[Dasani]

No, I don't do any of that nor did I try to say that I do. Only political candidates that support extensions of benefits for our veterans are considered when I step into the ballot box. This form of political activism does a hell of a lot more good than chipping off $1 a year into a poppy box and considering myself a good little Canadian boy for wearing a flower on my lapel.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Dasani

Good question. I guess I think I'm better than that.

Better than wearing a poppy?

Sounds like you're a blowhard to me.

[Hevishot]

Originally Posted by Dasani

No, I don't do any of that nor did I try to say that I do. Only political candidates that support extensions of benefits for our veterans are considered when I step into the ballot box. This form of political activism does a hell of a lot more good than chipping off $1 a year into a poppy box and considering myself a good little Canadian boy for wearing a flower on my lapel.

Are you for real?

[Dasani]

Originally Posted by valo403

Better than wearing a poppy?

Sounds like you're a blowhard to me.

Knowing myself better than anyone else, I would tend to agree with your assessment.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Dasani

No, I don't do any of that nor did I try to say that I do. Only political candidates that support extensions of benefits for our veterans are considered when I step into the ballot box. This form of political activism does a hell of a lot more good than chipping off $1 a year into a poppy box and considering myself a good little Canadian boy for wearing a flower on my lapel.

Ah, are you serious?

You said you're constantly lobying for something, then asked if you do any number of things that could be considered lobying your response is.

Well no, I don't do that, but I only vote for people who think the same thing as me.

Voting is not lobying, nor is it political activism.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Methanolic

BTW: some simple Poppy etiquette;

-Buy (donate) a new one each year.
-Wear it from Nov. 1st to 11th.
-Wear it on your left side (closest to your heart)


Poppy Don'ts:

-Wear it on your hat
-Wear more than one.
-Wear it before 11/01 or after 11/11.
-Use a "flag pin to secure it.
-Pin it to your vehicles visor.
-Wear it on your leg (I've seen it).

Actually you are wrong about the dates. Read the Poppy Manual below

http://www.legion.ca/_PDF/Manuals/Po...nual2007_e.pdf

The trademark (not Copyright) was given to the legion by Parliment. Also anything outside of this document is opinion and not Legion position.

[worth]

2005 was the "year of the veteran", and on our uniform we wore a "year of the veteran pin" which had a poppy on it. So essentially we work a poppy for all of 2005. I've still got mine.

[The Goon]

That manual is a good read. Thanks for posting it.