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MJM · 10-31-2009, 05:26 PM

The form you fill out for the shot, where does that go? Will a copy go to my doctor for my record keeping, or they essentially going to sit in a big pile for a couple years and never get imputted into a system?

HOOT · 10-31-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhettzky

What's your deal? I don't get what your motive is here. What are you trying to prove? What kind of answer do you expect here? The guy is getting the shot to protect his family, what is the problem? Page after page you keep flogging people in a lame attempt to justify your decision not to get the vaccination. Just let it go.

Personally I would have waited and spoke to my mother on the phone until all the high risk people got their shot and then went when things calmed down.

You could say this is a lame attempt since I don't plan on getting it however if I couldn't see my mom because of it I would get it, but only after those who actually needed right away got it.

Just my personal opinion on it because it is sad to see/hear people are lying about their health problems to get this shot before those who need it. But I think his point is valid asking how Dion would feel if someone perfectly healthy got this shot before his mother and something happened to her before she got it. I'm sure he would have a different opinion on things.

The panic this thing is causing people on both sides of the situation is crazy. Everyone is taking every little comment a little too seriously.

Bagor · 10-31-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KTown

she needed a respirator.

Can you clarify?

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Originally Posted by KTown

They are now both home from the hospital but are quarantineed for 10 days and aren't allowed to leave there house. Her fiance who has no vaccine and doesn't show any systems is quarantineed for 4 days in case they start to show.

How does that work re. time off work?
Are doctors writing sick notes now for asymptomatic people that haven't been positively diagnosed with the virus?

Sorry to hear dude. Hope everything works out.

Bagor · 10-31-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MJM

The form you fill out for the shot, where does that go? Will a copy go to my doctor for my record keeping, or they essentially going to sit in a big pile for a couple years and never get imputted into a system?

It's sold to marketing companies to offset the cost of the vaccine.

It's true.

Seriously, one would presume it's inputted somewhere for statistical and record-keeping purposes.

metallicat · 10-31-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KTown

Don't get panicked well over 99.99% of the people will survive. 2/3rds of well underthe 0.01% of the people that die will have existing underlying conditions.

They say 400 albertans could die if 875,000 people get sick. Thats a very small amount and that there should be no reason for panicking. You technically have a better chance of dieing in a traffic accident.

The biggest thing is that some people are reporting a hellish 30 hours when they get sick, while others are experiencing relativaly mild symptoms. I wish we knew why. Perhaps someday someone will figure it out.

Except I have an underlying condition, asthma.

This is going to make me sound like a wuss, but whatever. I hate needles. I have bad reactions from them. I nearly faint just from getting a blood test done. I was in school once, and thought I was going to pass out while sitting back at my desk following a vaccination of some sort. I once actually fainted just from being in a hospital visiting someone.

Now with the reports of side effects hitting some people, it makes me even more worried to get the shot. And that's despite knowing I have asthma. I normally never get worried about things like this, but for some reason I am starting to get freaked out about the swine flu.

CMPunk · 10-31-2009, 06:31 PM

Hope everyone that wanted a shot got them. Apparently the clinics are now closed
http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...ub=CalgaryHome

Dion · 10-31-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HOOT

Just my personal opinion on it because it is sad to see/hear people are lying about their health problems to get this shot before those who need it. But I think his point is valid asking how Dion would feel if someone perfectly healthy got this shot before his mother and something happened to her before she got it. I'm sure he would have a different opinion on things.

I didn't have to lie to get my shot as I was up front as to my health and why I ws getting the shot. Besides I got mine before the govt flip flopped on thier postion on who should get thier shot first. Yet somehow i'm the bad guy in all this

KTown · 10-31-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bagor

Can you clarify?

How does that work re. time off work?
Are doctors writing sick notes now for asymptomatic people that haven't been positively diagnosed with the virus?

Sorry to hear dude. Hope everything works out.

Thats a typo a "ventilator" is a breathing apparatus that helps you breathe, which you probably know. The respirators are required by anyone in the h1n1 wards at the hospital. Sorry

How does that work for time off work, good question. I would have to assume that it must be given. I bet the last thing they want is infected people at work. Legally they are not allowed to go to work and I would have to assume a doctors note would be required. You are correct that they aren't 100% confirmed that its h1n1 until the lab report is back for 3 days but they treated her for h1n1 and she got better and is continuing to get better at home. 100% recovery expected. If for some reason they are wrong then I would have to assume that they would call and let them know quarantine is not necessary.I could be wrong though

Dion · 10-31-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by oilers_fan

Now with the reports of side effects hitting some people, it makes me even more worried to get the shot. And that's despite knowing I have asthma. I normally never get worried about things like this, but for some reason I am starting to get freaked out about the swine flu.

You should be worried. My mother has asthma and was told by her GP to get the shot as the virus could kill her. Imagine having the breathing problems associated with the swine flu and asthma making it worse to a point where you could end up on a resperator.

Thor · 10-31-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dion

I didn't have to lie to get my shot as I was up front as to my health and why I ws getting the shot. Besides I got mine before the govt flip flopped on thier postion on who should get thier shot first. Yet somehow i'm the bad guy in all this

Its ridiculous anyone would fault you for getting it, I mean are people crazy?

KTown · 10-31-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by oilers_fan

Except I have an underlying condition, asthma.

This is going to make me sound like a wuss, but whatever. I hate needles. I have bad reactions from them. I nearly faint just from getting a blood test done. I was in school once, and thought I was going to pass out while sitting back at my desk following a vaccination of some sort. I once actually fainted just from being in a hospital visiting someone.

Now with the reports of side effects hitting some people, it makes me even more worried to get the shot. And that's despite knowing I have asthma. I normally never get worried about things like this, but for some reason I am starting to get freaked out about the swine flu.

There is 3 million people in Canada that have asthma, lets use something like 1 in 10 for simplicity instead of 1 in 11, You are not alone in this.

http://www.asthma.ca/adults/about/whoGetsAsthma.php

Assume then 300,000 of them live in Alberta. If all 400 of the deaths were to have asthma then 400 out of 300,000 possible albertans would die. All it does is increase your risk, when they say you are a high risk for complications it is compared to the average person. This doesn't mean you will automatically croack if you contract h1n1/ This would also be for all flu virus including the seasonal virus. Asthma is the leading cause of the deaths I believe in h1n1 across north america however asthma is the leading chronic respitory disease in north america if I am not mistaken. I think I read somewhere that around 25% of h1n1 deaths are related to asthma. Lets assume that that number is correct. That would equal 100 deaths in Alberta that have h1n1 with asthma. I read that they are assuming 875,000 albertans will get h1n1 so thats 87,500 with asthma for example. 100 into 87,500 very low odds.

This just means that if you get h1n1 and for some reason have trouble breathing get your ass to the er and tell them you have asthma, you will most likely be bumped ahead of the average person. People who think it will pass are the ones that may not make it out alive.

Come down, get the shot and enjoy your life. When we are 65 we can complain about how the seasonal flu is going to kill us.

KTown · 10-31-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CMPunk

Hope everyone that wanted a shot got them. Apparently the clinics are now closed
http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...ub=CalgaryHome

People who really need this first are now in luck, lets hope they move quickly and open the clinics on Monday.

FlamesAddiction · 10-31-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dion

You should be directing your outrage at the federal and provincial govts for telling everyone in the beginning that they should get thier shot immediately. Then when they flip flop on thier position I'm labeled an alarmist yahoo by you

Medical professionals (the same ones being cited by people here as promoting the vaccine as safe) have said that high risk people should get theirs first. Funny how people selectively choose what to listen to.

The trouble is, there is no way to enforce it without adding a lot of time and money. That's no reason to take advantage of it.

Dion · 10-31-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Medical professionals (the same ones being cited by people here as promoting the vaccine as safe) have said that high risk people should get theirs first. Funny how people selectively choose what to listen to.

It wasn't until it became apparent that there was going to be shortage of the vaccine did the govt start asking that healthy individuals to stand aside and let the high risk groups get thier shot. Funny how you missed that.

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The trouble is, there is no way to enforce it without adding a lot of time and money. That's no reason to take advantage of it.

How about having someone walk the line outside telling people the shots are for high risk people right now. That wouldn't cost a lot.

FlamesAddiction · 10-31-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dion

It wasn't until it became apparent that there was going to be shortage of the vaccine did the govt start asking that healthy individuals to stand aside and let the high risk groups get thier shot. Funny how you missed that.
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So until the government said this, it's the first time that you heard that high risk people whould be vaccinated first? Because this information has been around since the vaccinations started. You can't honestly tell me that you just heard of this for teh first time today.

BlackArcher101 · 10-31-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

So until the government said this, it's the first time that you heard that high risk people whould be vaccinated first? Because this information has been around since the vaccinations started. You can't honestly tell me that you just heard of this for teh first time today.

What I recall hearing was that high risk people SHOULD get it as soon as possible.... and that no one would be turned away from the clinics. And that I'm 99% sure on. That's different than saying only high risk people would be vaccinated first.

I don't even know why this is being debated?

Dion · 10-31-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

So until the government said this, it's the first time that you heard that high risk people whould be vaccinated first? Because this information has been around since the vaccinations started. You can't honestly tell me that you just heard of this for teh first time today.

No it's not the first time i've heard it. At the same time no one was being discouraged from not getting thier shots until this vaccine shortage became apparent.

Dion · 10-31-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

What I recall hearing was that high risk people SHOULD get it as soon as possible.... and that no one would be turned away from the clinics. And that I'm 99% sure on. That's different than the saying only high risk people would be vaccinated first.

I don't even know why this is being debated?

FlamesAddiction seems to be pissed at me for getting my shot when he/she feels I shouldn't have.

twotoner · 10-31-2009, 08:04 PM

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I come on here to let people know what I went through after getting a vaccination simply because it was relevant to the topic. I am a healthy 35 year old male 6'1" 220 lbs, and it knocked me on my ass. Just thought some would like to know what they may go through.

And then I get childless vag references?

I know it is very easy for you guys to sit back there and sling backhanded insults behind your computer screen, but I am saying, you would never have the guts to do it to my face. I make it a habit to not say crap on the internet I would otherwise never say in person.

I felt pretty much the same way. Dopey and tired for the last three days. Today was a little better. Almost back to normal.

Antithesis · 10-31-2009, 08:05 PM

Yep, you can count both my wife and I in that camp - we were both a bit nauseous last night/early today, she had a headache and we've been a bit sleepy. My arm is not as sore as it had been but still not 100%.