Is it Pregaming or Predrinking?

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

I'd call it 'saving money'.

(ba dump chee)

[VANFLAMESFAN]

I'd call it being a cheap prick.

I hate the pre game.....if you wanna stay home and get slaughtered, by all mean, do so. I hate the dudes that drink like 8 beers at home, then get to the bar and spend 20 bucks.......God, I hate cheap people.

[flip]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

I'd call it being a cheap prick.

I hate the pre game.....if you wanna stay home and get slaughtered, by all mean, do so. I hate the dudes that drink like 8 beers at home, then get to the bar and spend 20 bucks.......God, I hate cheap people.

Well I think that people who go to a to a club or even to a hockey game and spend $100 getting drunk are stupid.

I for one simply can't afford to get drunk with the ridiculous prices that most establishments have. Hell, I could spend $100 at a night club and not even be tipsy. I usually spend as much at home as I do at the bar. If I drink a 12 pack before I go then I'll spend another $20 at the bar. Then again it takes A LOT of liquor to get me drunk so it just isn't feasible to get drunk at a bar. I'd have to show up at like 6pm. Hockey games are worse. Beer is SO expensive.

Seems fair right?

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by flip

Well I think that people who go to a to a club or even to a hockey game and spend $100 getting drunk are stupid.

I for one simply can't afford to get drunk with the ridiculous prices that most establishments have. Hell, I could spend $100 at a night club and not even be tipsy. I usually spend as much at home as I do at the bar. If I drink a 12 pack before I go then I'll spend another $20 at the bar. Then again it takes A LOT of liquor to get me drunk so it just isn't feasible to get drunk at a bar. I'd have to show up at like 6pm. Hockey games are worse. Beer is SO expensive.

Seems fair right?

Nope, not buying it. Nothing drives me more nuts than people that go to places(bars, clubs, cafes etc) and think that they're not required to buy something from the place or if they get a beer and hold it for an hour that they're doing their due dilligence. If you can't afford to go to bars, then stay home. It's not a riddle. Getting drunk or going to a bar is not is not something you need to do, it's something you WANT to do. Get the priorities straight and you will have more money. I don't make good money by any stretch, but I don't go to bars and clubs,.....maybe once every 3-4 months and I get by just fine.

This is not meant at a shot at you, it's more just a generalization.

[flip]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Nope, not buying it. Nothing drives me more nuts than people that go to places(bars, clubs, cafes etc) and think that they're not required to buy something from the place or if they get a beer and hold it for an hour that they're doing their due dilligence. If you can't afford to go to bars, then stay home. It's not a riddle. Getting drunk or going to a bar is not is not something you need to do, it's something you WANT to do. Get the priorities straight and you will have more money. I don't make good money by any stretch, but I don't go to bars and clubs,.....maybe once every 3-4 months and I get by just fine.

This is not meant at a shot at you, it's more just a generalization.

I don't get your reasoning though. We're not talking about people who go to a pub and order nothing but wings and drink water or nurse 1 beer over the course of a 3 hour football game.

I am not required to spend ANY money at a club or hockey game. Both of these places are not strictly drinking places. Sure most people at both drink but lots of people go to a club just to dance. If I've paid cover I feel I'm under no obligation to spend another penny.


As for a pub I think there is a fine line. I usually feel guilty if I don't spend more than $10 for myself at a pub. Nothing worse than people who just sit there and drink water for 3 hours while watching a hockey game and the other person with them has to rack up a bill. A pub is NOT an establishment where you can just hang out guilt free. If you are using up a table you should be spending at least a little bit of money, especially if you are there watching a sporting event.

If you just stop off for a beer after work I don't think there is a minimum limit but that isn't what we are talking about here.

I just don't see your reasoning to why people are a)cheap and b) obligated to spend money at places that don't require you to do so. Seems really elitist that you feel everyone should spend a ton of money whenever they go anywhere.

I don't like cheap people as much as the next guy but there is a HUGE, and IMO a difference that you are failing to recognize, between not spending a lot and being cheap.

By your reasoning I can't get drunk and go to a Flames game, even though I pay a decent price for my tickets. Well, what about eating at a Flames game? Or even a pub?

If I attend these events am I obligated under your weird system of cheapness to purchase food? Or am I a cheap ahole if I eat at home before I go?

[Zarathustra]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Nope, not buying it. Nothing drives me more nuts than people that go to places(bars, clubs, cafes etc) and think that they're not required to buy something from the place or if they get a beer and hold it for an hour that they're doing their due dilligence. If you can't afford to go to bars, then stay home. It's not a riddle. Getting drunk or going to a bar is not is not something you need to do, it's something you WANT to do. Get the priorities straight and you will have more money. I don't make good money by any stretch, but I don't go to bars and clubs,.....maybe once every 3-4 months and I get by just fine.

This is not meant at a shot at you, it's more just a generalization.

I pay my 5 dollar cover, which gives me access to the club.

Once you pay your cover and are in the club, you can spend however much you want. If the drinks are reasonably priced I may have a few.

You should see how silly your argument is. Oh, you're a designated driver? Well too bad for you, you need to be drinking if you wanna stay here!

I can see your argument if you're talking about a restaurant or a small bar with no cover, but if I'm in a club with a capacity of a thousand people, then I may or may not buy drinks.

Keep in mind I do tip well, weather I'm drinking or not. Even If I get a few free waters I'll leave a tip. But if beers are being sold at $7 a bottle, chances are I won't be buying many.

I agree with you flip. When I'm at a club, drinking is secondary to having fun, meeting new people, and dancing.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Wow, a lot there to address.....don't have time for everything as I'm at work, but I'll try.

First off, I think a lot of my dis taste for pre drinking or pre gaming has a lot to do with the fact that I'm not a big drinker myself. I don't see how being drunk enhances any experience in a positive way. I know I'm in a huge minority here, so I'm not gonna argue that point.

Sorry, I'm not trying to come off as a snob, I'm really not. I don't make nearly as much as I would like. I live in a basement suite....enough said.

I don't think people need to spend a TON of money....I never said that, but I do think if you're gonna spend a couple hours in a place of BUSINESS, you should be buying something.

Hockey games.....no, you don't have to buy anything in my mind. You spent the money on a ticket, you get to watch the game. Your call if you want extra stuff. Same with the movie, don't buy anything if you don't want to. If you want to be drunk at a game or a concert or whatever, fine, go ahead, but I just feel getting drunk prior to getting even more drunk doesn't make a lot of sense.

Clubs....Cover doesn't entitle you to just to hang around for a couple hours and not buy anything. If you just want to dance?? Okay, I'll give you that. Some people are like that, but not a lot. Clubbing and drinking go hand in hand don't they??

If you're going to a bar just for one drink, totally cool. But if you spend 3 hours there for a game, I think 20-30 bucks is fair.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by Zarathustra

You should see how silly your argument is. Oh, you're a designated driver? Well too bad for you, you need to be drinking if you wanna stay here!

Well Christ, obviously there are exceptions. If you're designated driver, and you only drop a couple bucks on a Coke....fine.

[Zarathustra]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Well Christ, obviously there are exceptions. If you're designated driver, and you only drop a couple bucks on a Coke....fine.

Where do the exceptions end? What about that petite 100 pound year old woman who can only handle a few drinks? Encouraging or even forcing over-consumption of alcohol is not a good idea.

Bartenders can be held personally responsible for patrons they continue to serve while intoxicated. Businesses can lose liquor licenses. Forcing people to drink more at clubs will only lead to problems. I'm sure if you ask any bouncer, he'll tell you that 90% of the fights that happen at bars involve people who are very drunk.

Let people decide for themselves how much they wanna spend. Once they pay their cover, it's up to them.

If you're not making enough money, start offering better drink specials. Last year the back alley had $3 shots before 10 PM, and the club was always packed with people spending their money before 10.

It's too bad the province had to step in and make minimum drink prices, establishments should decide for themselves what their drinks should cost.

When I'm partying in the biggest club in the world with a famous DJ playing in Ibiza, I may be willing to spend $15 on a vodka redbull. But I'm certainly not willing to spend that amount here in Calgary in some lame club. If clubs aren't making enough money off drink sales, it's their fault not mine. You've gotta know your market.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

^^^ I didn't read any of that. You don't agree with me....I don't care.....move on.

[Zarathustra]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

^^^ I didn't read any of that. You don't agree with me....I don't care.....move on.

LOL. Good for you?

Next time somebody puts me in my place I'll use the same tactic.

"I didn't even read your response! So there!"

[CMPunk]

Forget about pregaming or predrinking, who the hell says getting your drink on?

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by Zarathustra

LOL. Good for you?

Next time somebody puts me in my place I'll use the same tactic.

"I didn't even read your response! So there!"

Oh please.

How exactly did you put me in my place?? You disproved my opinion on something?? That doesn't make any sense. I stopped the debate because you weren't gonna convince me differently and I wasn't gonna do the same to you. There's no right or wrong on this.

[Zarathustra]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Oh please.

How exactly did you put me in my place?? You disproved my opinion on something?? That doesn't make any sense. I stopped the debate because you weren't gonna convince me differently and I wasn't gonna do the same to you. There's no right or wrong on this.

LOL. Can't you see the silliness of this? You can make this claim about anything on any messageboard. If you are not looking to debate and argue on a messageboard, there is no point in having an account!

Take it easy, this is supposed to be fun.

[Superfraggle]

I know some reformed alcoholics. Should they be barred from the bars because they aren't buying drinks anymore? Or is that ok, as long as they have already paid the price of their alcoholism and reformed. VANFLAMESFAN, it sounds like you're suggesting you should have to buy drinks to be at a bar/club. Ridiculous. I will always pay for something: food and/or drinks, but drinking beforehand to counteract exhorbitant prices isn't unreasonable if you're buying one or two or more when you're there as well. Supply and Demand simply put. If prices are too high for people to buy drinks at the bar, they need to lower them.

[iggypop]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

I'd call it being a cheap prick.

I hate the pre game.....if you wanna stay home and get slaughtered, by all mean, do so. I hate the dudes that drink like 8 beers at home, then get to the bar and spend 20 bucks.......God, I hate cheap people.

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

If you're going to a bar just for one drink, totally cool. But if you spend 3 hours there for a game, I think 20-30 bucks is fair.

What wait?

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

First off, I think a lot of my dis taste for pre drinking or pre gaming has a lot to do with the fact that I'm not a big drinker myself.

Not to cut you down, but if this is the case then really your opinion on this doesn't matter. You don't drink much, nothing wrong with that. But if you drink a lot, like a lot of people do, then it makes sense to pre before you go out.

Your cutting into people for pre-gaming, because you don't do pre-game. But you don't pre-game, because you don't drink much.

That's like me ripping into some kids karate technique, when I know don't know @#$% about karate. Like WTF do I know about karate!? Nothing, I never do karate!

[Montana Moe]

Pre-game is the accepted term down here.

When I was in University, I had a few buddies from Spokane that called it pre-funk, as in pre-function.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

I'd call it being a cheap prick.

I hate the pre game.....if you wanna stay home and get slaughtered, by all mean, do so. I hate the dudes that drink like 8 beers at home, then get to the bar and spend 20 bucks.......God, I hate cheap people.

I agree. You know who else sucks? People who eat before they go to a game so they don't have to pay $4 for a hot dog. Who do they think they are? And don't even get me started on those a-holes that bring water bottles to the zoo!

[Weiser Wonder]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Nope, not buying it. Nothing drives me more nuts than people that go to places(bars, clubs, cafes etc) and think that they're not required to buy something from the place or if they get a beer and hold it for an hour that they're doing their due dilligence. If you can't afford to go to bars, then stay home. It's not a riddle. Getting drunk or going to a bar is not is not something you need to do, it's something you WANT to do. Get the priorities straight and you will have more money. I don't make good money by any stretch, but I don't go to bars and clubs,.....maybe once every 3-4 months and I get by just fine.

This is not meant at a shot at you, it's more just a generalization.

Go to the bars if you want to. Drink at the bars if you want to. Spend $20 at the bar if you want to. Spend $1000 at the bar if you want to. Why in god's name anyone would care which one of these a person did is beyond me. It really drives you nuts to see people who drink at home and then go out to the bars? Why?

[doozwimp]

Originally Posted by Zarathustra

LOL. Can't you see the silliness of this? You can make this claim about anything on any messageboard. If you are not looking to debate and argue on a messageboard, there is no point in having an account!

Take it easy, this is supposed to be fun.

Just tell him off for liking Transformers 2.