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Rerun · 10-30-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by narbeZ

I just can't believe in reading this thread, that so many people have been almost blindly are trusting and doing what ever the media tells us.

Im with FoxMulder on this one, all this H1N1 stuff seems a bit rushed don't you think?

I'll stick to washing my hands and coughing in my sleeve thanks very much.

Enjoy your time, spent in the Emergency waiting room. I'm sure it will be lovely... LOL. My wife spent over 10 hours in Emergency when she had appendicitis. What you will spend is anybody's guess.... probably more if there are a lot of people like you going there clogging up the system.
The absolute last thing I want to do is spend hours and hours in Emergency, feeling like total crap, waiting for a doctor to see me. Been there, done that.
Good luck.

Rerun · 10-30-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I've been to the doctor once in the past 11 years. Vaccination or not, if I get sick, I think I have the right to go.

Yes you do.... and you will have the absolute right to wait, and wait, and wait, and wait.... for the doctor to see you. Good luck.

Dion · 10-30-2009, 10:41 AM

World health body says H1N1 vaccines safe, effective

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The highest-level advisory body to WHO on immunization and vaccination policy, an advisory group comprised of experts from around the world, has reviewed the results of clinical trials involving several thousand people and more than several hundred thousand who have been vaccinated in "real field" operations organized by 14 countries.

"All the reports received today following vaccination either in clinical trial or live vaccination campaign have showed the safety profile of these pandemic vaccines is good and is very similar to the ones which are known for seasonal influenza," Dr. Marie-Paule Kieny, director of WHO's Initiative for Vaccine Research told reporters during a briefing Friday from Geneva.

"Nothing special in terms of adverse events has been noted," Kieny said.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/...871/story.html

The Goon · 10-30-2009, 10:48 AM

People have been getting turned away from the Richmond Road clinic today. Great, that was my destination for later!

http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/...628/story.html

Bagor · 10-30-2009, 11:05 AM

You know what I'm starting to find fascinating by this whole debate is the whole risk perception, communication of risks and trust issue behind this issue. No doubt there must be a few profs rubbing their hands in anticipation of papers, funding for thesis that'll be published on this.

What I'd be interested to see is a comparison of individuals and their trust levels of the risk communciated by one organisation (the WHO) that is made of an international collaboration of expert scientists and compare that trust level with that of another international organisation that again is made of a international collaboration of expert scientists ... namely the IPCC whose finding and suggestions I've often read on this site being dismissed as nothing more than doom and gloom fear-mongering.

Playing devils advocate here but it's not as if the WHO hasn't been known to be guilty of a bit of doom and gloom in the past also.

I mean both organisations monitor, measure and record present/past and projected future happenings for risk management albeit on completely different timeline. Is it the timelines (50 years) into the future that people have a problem with re. trusting the message delivered by the IPCC vs WHO or is there something else?

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Meantime, a lot of people have said the hell with it. It's hard to blame them. Ever since the spring, when the World Health Organization declared swine flu to be a “pandemic” – after just 144 deaths – SFO has been running rampant. Ordinary pandemics kill at least a million people worldwide. Swine flu has killed around 5,000 people, including 86 in Canada. Worldwide, ordinary seasonal flu kills 700 to 1,400 people a day.
But everybody loves a good health scare. Remember BSE? Infected cows were going to turn our brains to mush. Then came SARS. In 2003, one widely quoted British expert predicted that it could turn out to be more lethal than AIDS. The final death toll from SARS was 774 – about one day's worth of flu victims. Then came deadly birds. In 2006, David Nabarro, a top WHO official, warned that avian flu could kill 150 million people. The White House's avian flu response plan projected that as many as two million Americans might die, and one leading influenza researcher warned that a pandemic might kill half the human population. To date, the worldwide death toll from avian flu is 262.
All these panics have a lot in common: a legitimate concern that's blown wildly out of proportion by various interest groups, including scientists and public-health agencies, whose warnings are then amplified by the media. Politicians have no choice but to respond in kind, just in case. This outbreak has followed the usual course. The President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology recently predicted that there might be 30,000 to 90,000 U.S. deaths from swine flu, peaking in mid-October. (That would be a week ago.) To date the U.S. death toll has barely reached a thousand, but the President has declared a national emergency anyway.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1339125/

KTown · 10-30-2009, 11:26 AM

I've read that it is estimated that 875,000 people in alberta will contract the h1n1 bug and 400 will die. That is a very small amount. I do think the media has blown it out of proportion. I am at home sick with the flu right now, I am on day 2 and am feeling much better, Do I have h1n1 I don't think so because I yet to have a cough and fever, seems like the regular flu to me. That being said I do have asthma from allergies but I don't need any medication for it, I've never needed the puffer, I've never been hospitalized and I've never missed exercise and work because of it. I will get my shot hopefully monday because I don't need to infect everyone else standing in line. I will be royally pissed however if I am turned away because there dosages are running low as I will have to miss work for it.

Rerun · 10-30-2009, 11:28 AM

It'll be interesting to see, 6 months down the road, how many CP members got the vaccination (right now we are running at 47.52% saying they will not be getting the shot). I suspect that a lot of the no's will change their minds.

Wookie · 10-30-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rerun

It'll be interesting to see, 6 months down the road, how many CP members got the vaccination (right now we are running at 47.52% saying they will not be getting the shot). I suspect that a lot of the no's will change their minds.

Dead people can change their minds?

mikey_the_redneck · 10-30-2009, 11:34 AM

Good article Bagor.............it sums up my feelings on this thing exactly. The whole thing seems overblown to me.
I'm not getting the shot, and I care not what others think of my choice.

troutman · 10-30-2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KTown

I've read that it is estimated that 875,000 people in alberta will contract the h1n1 bug and 400 will die. That is a very small amount.

400 people dying in Alberta is a "very small amount"?

KTown · 10-30-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by troutman

400 people dying in Alberta is a "very small amount"?

In proportion to the amount getting sick yes. However I do think everyone still needs to do there part.

mikey_the_redneck · 10-30-2009, 11:39 AM

I'll donate 50 bucks to CP if 400 people die from H1N1.........in Alberta.

bossy22 · 10-30-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rerun

Enjoy your time, spent in the Emergency waiting room. I'm sure it will be lovely... LOL. My wife spent over 10 hours in Emergency when she had appendicitis. What you will spend is anybody's guess.... probably more if there are a lot of people like you going there clogging up the system.
The absolute last thing I want to do is spend hours and hours in Emergency, feeling like total crap, waiting for a doctor to see me. Been there, done that.
Good luck.

Why does everyone assume that you will have to go emergency or even worse you will die? 4 of my kids classmates have h1n1. Not one of them went to emergency. They're at home fighting it just like any other flu. They went to their family doctor and were told stay home and fight it unless they start experiencing more severe symptoms.

Dion · 10-30-2009, 11:46 AM

Why a doctor urges you to get vaccinated.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/healt...577/story.html

Shazam · 10-30-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KTown

I've read that it is estimated that 875,000 people in alberta will contract the h1n1 bug and 400 will die. That is a very small amount.

The average number of deaths from flu is 17.

The Goon · 10-30-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I'll donate 50 bucks to CP if 400 people die from H1N1.........in Alberta.

If 394 people die in the next six months, I don't want to hear about any of the moderators going around injecting a few people with the virus just so they can get the 50 bucks.

photon · 10-30-2009, 12:00 PM

Don't go to the one in the NE. It's a gong show and they apparently closed the doors at 10:30am! No one could tell me why either, Ctv news was here too

I got mine but I'm watching a constant stream of people come, pay for parking, walk up and be turned away at the gate. And I was here around 8:15 and just got out.

Go to High River or other outlying ones, I regret not doing
so.

Rerun · 10-30-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Good article Bagor.............it sums up my feelings on this thing exactly. The whole thing seems overblown to me.
I'm not getting the shot, and I care not what others think of my choice.

Rest in peace my friend.

Shazam · 10-30-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by photon

Don't go to the one in the NE. It's a gong show and they apparently closed the doors at 10:30am! No one could tell me why either, Ctv news was here too

I got mine but I'm watching a constant stream of people come, pay for parking, walk up and be turned away at the gate. And I was here around 8:15 and just got out.

Go to High River or other outlying ones, I regret not doing
so.

All the ones in Calgary are now closed, apparently.

Dion · 10-30-2009, 12:24 PM

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At least three Calgary vaccination clinics have stopped accepting H1N1 vaccine recipients after they were overwhelmed by public response.

The Richmond, Avenida and Brentwood clinics began turning away poeple this morning after they were swamped on the fifth day of the vaccination campaign.

http://www.calgarysun.com/news/alber.../11582746.html

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The demand for H1N1 vaccinations was so great on Friday that all five clinics in Calgary have closed their lines.

The first line was closed at the Richmond Road Diagnostic Treatment Centre.

Between 2,000 and 3,000 people were already lined up at that mass vaccination clinic by 10 a.m.

Alberta Health Services says that's enough people to take them right to the end of the day which is why they closed the line.

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...ub=CalgaryHome