How? What if you were already infected with HIV? Would you want to get immunized? What about other people that you knew that might spread the disease to you?
I'll go get it, but I'm going to wait until the seas of people at the clinics die down a little bit (no pun intended). The thought of waiting for hours in a tiny space with a bunch of hacking, wheezing people just to get the vaccine a little sooner doesn't sound like it's worth it to me.
How? What if you were already infected with HIV? Would you want to get immunized? What about other people that you knew that might spread the disease to you?
I read that yesterday was he 32nd anniversary of the last case of naturally acquired smallpox. Some backwater in the horn of Africa.
That awful disease had been around for 10,000 years and killed hundreds of millions of people. It was wiped out in a matter of decades after they develop the vaccine. But some people don't think they work. Or even better, are designed to kill us.
I'm not speaking out against vaccines by any means... but I don't think the contraversy is unwarranted. We are talking about mass immunization of entire populations for a disease that would likely infect less than 1% of the total population... of which, only a small percentage would die. The vaccine seems rushed which also scares people. Just because one vaccine is proven effective over 50 years, does not mean every other vaccine developed afterwards will also be harmless. There is evidence that certain vaccines can harm people several years after the fact (see Gulf War Syndrome which many scientists have linked to anthrax vaccines which were developed in haste and weren't properly tested).
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I'm not speaking out against vaccines by any means... but I don't think the contraversy is unwarranted. We are talking about mass immunization of entire populations for a disease that would likely infect less than 1% of the total population... of which, only a small percentage would die. The vaccine seems rushed which also scares people. Just because one vaccine is proven effective over 50 years, does not mean every other vaccine developed afterwards will also be harmless. There is evidence that certain vaccines can harm people several years after the fact (see Gulf War Syndrome which many scientists have linked to anthrax vaccines which were developed in haste and weren't properly tested).
I've read that it is far more reliably linked to exposure to all of the depleted uranium anti-tank weapons used by the Allies.
I believe they found extensive chromosonal damage in test subjects that could be linked to radiation.
I'm not speaking out against vaccines by any means... but I don't think the contraversy is unwarranted. We are talking about mass immunization of entire populations for a disease that would likely infect less than 1% of the total population... of which, only a small percentage would die. The vaccine seems rushed which also scares people. Just because one vaccine is proven effective over 50 years, does not mean every other vaccine developed afterwards will also be harmless. There is evidence that certain vaccines can harm people several years after the fact (see Gulf War Syndrome which many scientists have linked to anthrax vaccines which were developed in haste and weren't properly tested).
So can we indeed go to a rural location even if we are from Calgary? Why aren't more people doing that. High River is just as close to me as some of the in-city spots.
Took the family to Okotoks today at 3:30pm and we were all vaccinated and out of there by 4:45. The line was entirely inside the building and was about 3/4 of the way around the arena. The lady working the line confirmed that if you have an Alberta Health Care Card you can get the vaccine at any clinic.
Was kind of surprised to look at the news when we got home and see the line all the way outside the building and then some. Guess the best bet is to hit them earlier in the day if you can to avoid the after work crowd.
Also, kids under ten have to get the shot twice (half dose). So if you factor that in, there is going to be another influx of parents at these things in about 21 days.
A 13-year-old minor league hockey player from Toronto has died of the H1N1 virus, Toronto Public Health confirmed Tuesday.
Evan Frustaglio began developing flu-like symptoms during a hockey tournament in London, Ont., over the weekend, said his father, Paul Frustaglio. After returning to Toronto early Sunday, his parents took him to a local walk-in clinic, where he was examined and sent home.
My opinion is based on scientific evidence and research. What are you basing your opinion on?
My opinion is based on scientific evidence and research also.
I'm finding the evidence and research to be incomplete and full of knowledge gaps. What about you?
Or maybe you could enlighten me and point me towards the findings of the complete clinical trials this thing has been subjected to .... thanks.
I'll repeat the question I asked you back in post #116.
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My question for you is that given that there is a significant possibility that this vaccine has been subjected to a fraction of what is normally considered best practice for clinical trials of vaccines does that make someone a bad person for not wanting to subject themselves or their loved ones to the injection based on what can be construed as incomplete evidence?
It's still a work in progress and an information gathering process as we speak so can you please stop calling people foolish and ashamed for adopting what in their opinion is a perfectly logical reason for adopting a wait and see approach.
Frankly, let the people who don't want to get the shot just sit at home. I believe in survival of the fittest, and if this thing does in fact turn into a body eating rampage, then we win. If not... then we all win.
Frankly, let the people who don't want to get the shot just sit at home. I believe in survival of the fittest, and if this thing does in fact turn into a body eating rampage, then we win. If not... then we all win.
Maybe this is a stupid question, but if the virus did mutate into some freak strain, wouldn't the current vaccines be rendered useless?
Advice please.
OK. So a girl ended up coming back to my place on the weekend. She was kinda sick, but alcohol got in the way of both of our common sense I guess. Anyway, yada, yada, yada.....
She calls me today and tells me she has H1N1. I am showing no signs or symptoms. Does anyone know how long I would carry the virus before starting to feel it? I am really hoping I dodged a bullet here.
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Do they turn you away?
