Who's getting the H1N1 shot?

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

I guarantee I'll be healthier in the long term by not vacinating for everything (and being mildly sick several times in between), and just going without.

I think you are confusing "healthier" with "less resiliance to drugs". I think what you are implying is that you won't be healthier, but in the event you do get sick, you will have less resiliance to common drugs and have more options as a result. Or are you saying you'll be healthier because you'll have natural antibodies from being mildly sick serveral times? Why bother, just get the shot which does the same thing?

[schteve_d]

I admit to being very confused on the issue. There are arguments on both sides, from people much smarter than myself, that make sense to me. On these types of issues I usually pick the macho approach to just ride it out and see what happens but the attention from very high on up has got me a little rattled. I remember reading articles a few years, maybe five or so, ago about the next big flu pandemic and now it seems to be here. I think I will likely get the shot if still available after a short waiting period.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

My wife and I have asked her doctor. Seriously, people will listen to what they want. Just becasue some doctors say that you should be getting them, doesn't mean that all (or even a majority) of doctors do. My wifes doctor says that regular handwashing, and staying home when you are sick, and coughing into your sleeve are far more important then getting vaccinated.

Staying at home when your sick is great in theory, but what you have to remember is that a majority of workers don't have a sick plan that pays them when they are off work. Not too many can afford to be off work for a week until the virus is gone. Just imagine all the workers in the service industry showing up for work sick.

And of course that's the way the immune system works. Maybe "training" isn't exactly the right word, but the point is still true. I guarantee I'll be healthier in the long term by not vacinating for everything (and being mildly sick several times in between), and just going without.

How can you guarentee us you won't get the H1N1 virus?

If having a flu means that you are sick for more then one day at a time, then I've never had the flu in my life.

Trust me you don't want it.

[joe_mullen]

[quote= I guarantee I'll be healthier in the long term by not vacinating for everything (and being mildly sick several times in between), and just going without.

I believe modern medicine would not agree with that statement. Your immune system doesn't function like that. If anything, vaccinating will make you healthier in the long term. Many of the conditions we get vaccinated for not only prevent mild illness but also complications (occasionally serious) from these illnesses.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Where do they stab you when you get these shots? If it's in the shoulder, I might go get it. If it's in the vein on the inner elbow, there's no way in hell I'll go.

A year and a half ago I would have said the same thing. Since then i've had so many blood tests done that my fear of needles is gone. I can actually watch when they stick it in my arm

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Dion

A year and a half ago I would have said the same thing. Since then i've had so many blood tests done that my fear of needles is gone. I can actually watch when they stick it in my arm

I just don't understand how anyone can become a heroin addict. I mean, voluntarily sticking needles in your arm. WTF?
I used to roll with a diabetic chick. She had to give herself injections regularly (huh huh, insert joke here). Every time I saw her give herself an injection, I silently prayed that I would never have to do that, lest I meet Him early.
Any of you out in CP land that has to do this, I tip my hat to you for having 10x the balls I do.

[valo403]

Probably not. I flew from Bangkok to Tokyo beside a guy who's traveling companion for the past month had been sent to a Saigon isolation unit due to suspected H1N1, I figure that was enough exposure. Even more unnerving was the fact he was a Canucks fan.

I also don't have insurance.

[Flames_Gimp]

people who don't get it are selfish. the more people out there spreading around the virus, the more it increases the likelihood that people susceptible to it (Like myself) will contract it.

[pylon]

I am not usually the type that will get vaccinated, and i usually avoid doctors at all costs. But I, without a doubt will be getting a shot. One of my moms friends got it, and she was bed ridden for three weeks. One of my co-workers wives is currently on life support after contracting severe pneumonia as a result of H1N1. I am not a religious man, but I am praying for her to pull through it. I deal with the public all day, and I am not going to risk exposing myself to this thing. I have seen two people go through hell already. And I agree with Gimp. It is selfish to expose others to it by not taking the necessary precautions.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

Or you could get it and die in a couple of days.

Not to be a fear-mongerer, but it's happened.

I'm not old, and I'm not young. I could stand to lose a few pounds though so I'll stand firm in my resolution to not get the shot. Thanks for fear-mongering though.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by firebug

I just wonder if those who are declining the vaccine for safety reasons and then get really sick, are going to be concerned about the medical trials and safety issues regarding being placed on a respirator in the ICU?

This is where my co workers wife is right now. Very, very sad.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by 4X4

I just don't understand how anyone can become a heroin addict. I mean, voluntarily sticking needles in your arm. WTF?
I used to roll with a diabetic chick. She had to give herself injections regularly (huh huh, insert joke here). Every time I saw her give herself an injection, I silently prayed that I would never have to do that, lest I meet Him early.
Any of you out in CP land that has to do this, I tip my hat to you for having 10x the balls I do.

I used to break out in a cold sweat when I saw a needle. The nurses used to ask why I was breathing so fast and attempted to distract me as best they could. Mind you it's every 3 months that I get the blood work done.

Could I give myself injections if I was diabetic? I Hope to hell i never have to deal with that. It's one thing to have a nurse do it, but me doing it, not a chance.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Dion

Staying at home when your sick is great in theory, but what you have to remember is that a majority of workers don't have a sick plan that pays them when they are off work. Not too many can afford to be off work for a week until the virus is gone. Just imagine all the workers in the service industry showing up for work sick.

Yes, like the girl working at the Bay till yesterday. Coughing and wiping her nose all over her hands, then handing me the pen to sign my Visa slip. Probably just a cold, but still... definitely a "must not touch child before sanitizing my hands" moment. Yuck.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Dion

I used to break out in a cold sweat when I saw a needle. The nurses used to ask why I was breathing so fast and attempted to distract me as best they could. Mind you it's every 3 months that I get the blood work done.

Could I give myself injections if I was diabetic? I Hope to hell i never have to deal with that. It's one thing to have a nurse do it, but me doing it, not a chance.

One you have a compounded open fracture, you will be cured of something as wimpy as a needle poking through your skin. You will also be quite surprised that your bones are actually yellow. You will also be able to say "I had dirt in my tibia." I'll never forget that. I thought I had a stick in my leg because of the clump of mud on the end of it. Then I noticed I had a second knee, and my foot was backwards.

[Thor]

I'm getting both, I had a scare in July while visiting Vancouver where they thought at first I had H1N1, it turned out to be a rather nasty bacterial infection that nearly destroyed me in 10 days. Never ever been sicker in my life and I was in so much pain 4-5 days into it that I joked to a nurse that I would have been better off with H1N1.

With a serious look she said, you don't want to wish that on your worst enemy, if you think this is bad H1N1 can be much worse.

Scared me straight, I'm taking no chances.

[transplant99]

As someone who has been through this already, and i can honestly say that im not even sure im completely over it, I would encourage everyone to get the vaccine if they have the choice.

Even if the current version of the vaccine seems like it may not be perfected, if it will counter just one single version of the H1N1 strain, you will be so freaking thankful. The virus is unlike anything else i had ever experienced, and never want to even come close to again. The illness is debilitating, the physical pain is almost unbearable, and the recovery time seems endless.

Obviously getting vaccinated or not is a personal choice, but if you have children i certainly would seriously consider it, as this is something you do not want to see them go through and it would be 100 times worse if you were the carrier they got it from.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Even if the current version of the vaccine seems like it may not be perfected, if it will counter just one single version of the H1N1 strain, you will be so freaking thankful. The virus is unlike anything else i had ever experienced, and never want to even come close to again. The illness is debilitating, the physical pain is almost unbearable, and the recovery time seems endless.

So it's like being an Oilers fan?

I wish some of you were around during the last Polio epidemic.

[Prototype]

My wife and I talked about it, cause she works in the health industry, and we're thinking of trying for a second child soon. She'll probably get it with my son sooner rather than later.

While I'm in no rush, I'll probably still get it sometime between now and the end of the year...

[stampsx2]

Apparently Alberta is one of the worst in Canada and Canada is one of the worst in the world for infections right now (at least according to google.org They seem in line with what's going on in the news right now). http://www.google.org/flutrends/ Taking precautions probably isn't a bad idea right now.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

Apparently Alberta is one of the worst in Canada and Canada is one of the worst in the world for infections right now (at least according to google.org They seem in line with what's going on in the news right now). http://www.google.org/flutrends/ Taking precautions probably isn't a bad idea right now.

Look at how they arrive at that data. They are using search terms such as "flu" to determine the severity of the flu in areas. This isn't effective since the media plays a roll in changing the data. The more articles and news stories there are about h1n1 and flu vaccine, the more people think about it and search it on google. Google then thinks that more people have the flu when in reality they are researching it. It makes sense that the areas with more media coverage are also ones that have the more intense ratings.

I'll stick with data from reputable associations.