10-21-2009, 05:39 PM
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CRTC Net Neutrality ruling
BOHICA
http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/NEWS/RELEA...09/r091021.htm
Comments/Ajudications pro or against this decision?
Being informed that your bandwidth will be throttled before they actually throttle it should be useful.
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10-21-2009, 10:05 PM
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It is knid of interesting what they came up with.
Yes, an ISP has a right to control traffic on their network. BUT they cannot throttle traffic that is time sensitive (VOIP), and they can't throttle to the point where it "blocks or controls" the data. So they can slow down a torrent since that type of traffic isn't generally time sensitive, but they can't slow it down so much that it becomes useless.
It looks like they are trying hard to balance. I guess I'll take a wait and see approach.
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10-21-2009, 10:13 PM
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Given that I have ADSL to my apartment, and my upload speeds are already throttled, (640 kb up) I would not accept any attempt to further limit my bandwidth. Though the competition really is slim pickings.
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10-22-2009, 10:56 AM
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I would have prefered them the ability to throttle users at peak times and not programs/services/ports themselves.
Time sensitive is a very slippery slope but classic Canadian BS legal garbage.
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10-22-2009, 01:09 PM
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I had hoped they would have included an article about cost of access.
Highspeed rates are criminal.
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10-22-2009, 01:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
I had hoped they would have included an article about cost of access.
Highspeed rates are criminal.
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Really? How is a buck a day for 15 down 1 up considered criminal?
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10-22-2009, 01:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sclitheroe
Really? How is a buck a day for 15 down 1 up considered criminal?
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Where do you live?
In Calgary that is $50/month with Shaw.
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10-22-2009, 03:35 PM
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I get that with Telus for $38/month
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"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
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10-22-2009, 03:41 PM
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Sorry, Shaw is 53.95+GST for the 15mbps service.
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10-22-2009, 03:48 PM
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Last edited by Cliche; 10-22-2009 at 03:53 PM.
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10-22-2009, 09:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HeartsOfFire
Given that I have ADSL to my apartment, and my upload speeds are already throttled, (640 kb up) I would not accept any attempt to further limit my bandwidth. Though the competition really is slim pickings.
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what do you need more upload for?
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10-23-2009, 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cliche
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I always love how those BS articles dont give examples of how we are getting screwed compared to say Europe of the US.
Example, what is the price of a 6mbps/15mbps download in places like London, Paris, Frankfurt, New York, Boston, Chicago, Atlanta, Dallas, Denver, etc.
The only think I think we are missing here that the US does have is FIOS. I have talked to co workers in Houston and they seem to be paying comparable prices for internet with no fancy huge upload with the home packages.
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10-23-2009, 04:41 PM
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http://www.fcc.gov/stage/pdf/Berkman...dy_13Oct09.pdf
Berkman FCC draft. If any of the rankings are to be believed, we are approximately 20th in relation to both speed, and market uptake. And economic powerhouses such as NZ and
Note you cannot get 6mbps in London as apparently the lowest speed price is for 8mbps service.
Anyways, it may all be a moot point as the average speed experienced is 4.1mbps.
Of the pdf file page 157 may be of interest, as it covers their analysis of Canada's 3g network.
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Last edited by Cliche; 10-23-2009 at 04:51 PM.
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