Who's getting the H1N1 shot?

[The Yen Man]

I'll be getting it, but probably later on in the week when the crowd hopefully dies down first. Better safe than sorry, I always say.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by Ethaniel

Well considering it is hockey season HAHA.
But no seriously i would rather get the real virus and then my body will learn how to defeat it from here on out.

But that's what the flu vaccine does...it preps your immune system with a dead virus so if you come into contact with the live virus your immune has a very good chance at blocking it without the risk of getting sick and/or transmitting the virus to other people. Also the flu changes every year so if you get the shot (or not) or the actual flu this season it won't provide you with any immunity for next years strain.



Also the flu is one of those words that people use all the time incorrectly. 24 hour flu doesn't exist. When people are sick for a day or two it's almost a guarantee that they don't have the flu (most of the time). The flu is in your system for around 2 weeks. You won't just miss one day of work. Ask Transplant, it wasn't easy on him. Of course it does effect people differently. Some get knocked on their butt, others not as bad, some need to be hooked up to ventilators and of course some die.

[Rerun]

I'm getting it. Frankly, I think anybody who doesn't get it is brain dead. ...

... and I think that because:

1) either because they are too lazy to get it

2) they believe some stupid misinformation generally put out by some "Doctor" of Chiropractory or "Doctor" of Naturopathic Medicine, or some other quack.

3) they think that getting the flu shot will make them sick with the flu (which again is stupid because the virus is dead)

4) some other equally stupid reason.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Originally Posted by Rerun

I'm getting it. Frankly, I think anybody who doesn't get it is brain dead. ...

... and I think that because:

1) either because they are too lazy to get it

2) they believe some stupid misinformation generally put out by some "Doctor" of Chiropractory or "Doctor" of Naturopathic Medicine, or some other quack.

3) they think that getting the flu shot will make them sick with the flu (which again is stupid because the virus is dead)

4) some other equally stupid reason.

You're ugly.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

You're ugly.

You're fat.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Originally Posted by Rerun

You're fat.

But you're ugly.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

But you're ugly.

yes but I'm smart though.... and not fat.

[Ashartus]

With a pregnant wife and toddler, for sure we'll all be getting it, but will probably wait a couple of weeks for the non-adjuvated version for the wife & kid consistent with health agency recommendations unless the second wave really starts to hit hard here.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Originally Posted by Rerun

yes but I'm smart though.... and not fat.

You're not smart if you can't conceive of legitimate reasons people may not get a vaccine. So in summary: not fat and not smart, but ugly.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Rerun

I'm getting it. Frankly, I think anybody who doesn't get it is brain dead. ...

... and I think that because:

1) either because they are too lazy to get it

2) they believe some stupid misinformation generally put out by some "Doctor" of Chiropractory or "Doctor" of Naturopathic Medicine, or some other quack.

3) they think that getting the flu shot will make them sick with the flu (which again is stupid because the virus is dead)

4) some other equally stupid reason.

Your condescending post is quite funny, as most of the bullets are wrong in this case.

Most of the h1n1 vaccines being given out contain the live virus. Also, many real doctors are advising their patients against receiving it due to how quickly it was pushed through the clinical trial process.

[LChoy]

Health hat/

Right now, we are encouraging those in high risk groups to get it first (Pregnant women, those with chronic conditions especially respiratory conditions, elderly, immunocompromised).
The reason for concern is that H1N1 satisfies the criteria for a pandemic. The three criteria that are required to enable a pandemic include: 1) the presence of a new viral strain that is capable of infecting humans, 2) ability to be transmitted from person to person, and 3) availability of a susceptible global population
This strain is novel and different from the usual yearly influenza strain which mean most people have very little to no natural immunity to it. It has shown to be able to be transmitted very easily from person to person. Finally, it is now spread all over the world, in fact 90% of the flu strain in the environment is H1N1.

It should be noted that pandemic doesn't translate to lethality. It has been far less lethal than ordinary influenza, however, it has killed or hospitalized healthy adults age 18-30, a category that generally shouldn't die or be affected this severely from the flu.

The other concern is for historical reasons. On average, we experience a pandemic about every thirty years. Indeed, in the 20th century, there were three pandemic influenza outbreaks which included: the Spanish Influenza (1918–1920), Asian Influenza (1957–1958) and the Hong Kong Influenza (1968–1969). The worry is that influenza always mutates and we really don't want another Spanish influenza if H1N1 suddenly becomes more lethal.

On a more practical level, the vaccine should prevent you getting it in the first place, or minimizes the effect. We are predicting anywhere from 1 in 10 to 4 in 10 people will be infected this year by H1N1. There is a concern that this may overload the health system as people will be crowding into their primary care providers or Emergency rooms when they come down with it. If you do, best to stay home and rest, and contact health link if your symptoms worsen, or go to the hospital immediately if you develop difficulties briefing or uncontrollable fever.

Last thing, for most people, they'll be sick for a couple of days and just stay at home and be fine with it. However, I want you to think about other people. This strain is bad on pregnant people and those with respiratory conditions. No one wants to be that person that gets their friend or family seriously sick. herd immunity is no longer effective if the population that doesn't get vaccinated rises above 10%. You are also still contagious as long as the cough remains, which could be a full week longer than the rest of the symptoms

If anyone has questions or concerns, message me or pm me, and I can respond with official and and not google information

[Rerun]

Nm

[Methanolic]

I will Absolutely NOT! get it.

...I tried walking backwards years ago, I didn't like it then, so......

But I hate talking when I'm jogging even worse!

[Kipper is King]

I will get it. Better safe than sorry, and I think the risk of complications from the vaccine is much less than the risks associated with the virus.

On a side note: Could this be turned into a poll?

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

You know, it's times like this that I miss Tower.
I'd be willing to bet that that dude would have some pretty awesome thoughts on flu vaccines.

[LChoy]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

Your condescending post is quite funny, as most of the bullets are wrong in this case.

Most of the h1n1 vaccines being given out contain the live virus. Also, many real doctors are advising their patients against receiving it due to how quickly it was pushed through the clinical trial process.

Not true at all

Here is the Notice of Decision by Health Canada
It is an inactivated virus and "shotgunned" to increase immune response

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/prodp...132070-eng.php

There is concern about the speed that this thing has been put through. However an extensive world wide network of surveillance has been set up to monitor for vaccine adverse effects. This will be the most monitored vaccination in history. Also, the speed in Canada's and the world response can be attributed to the development of the Canada's Pandemic plan that was created right after the Avian flu/SARS events. In some cases, this is the first time since it's inception that the pandemic plan has been activated

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Lchoy

Health hat/

Question:

When compared to normal flu vaccines is there any difference in timeline/ amount of clinical trials that this vaccine has been subjected to. i.e. has it had:
the same types of clinical trials with the same sample size and replications over the same time
the same types of clinical trials with smaller sample sizes and replications over less time or
Less types of clinical trials overall.

Originally Posted by Lchoy

There is concern about the speed that this thing has been put through. However an extensive world wide network of surveillance has been set up to monitor for vaccine adverse effects. This will be the most monitored vaccination in history.

Doesn't it make sense then for me to have a wait and see how everyone else reacts to it approach?
Are you suggesting that there might be some uncertainties?

[Raekwon]

Originally Posted by Kipper is King

I will get it. Better safe than sorry, and I think the risk of complications from the vaccine is much less than the risks associated with the virus.

On a side note: Could this be turned into a poll?

Thats what she said

[Dion]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

But you're ugly.

[Dion]

I will be getting the vaccine. My mother has severe asthma and this virus strain would most likey kill her. I just don't want to risk me getting it and passing it on to her.