Common driving Laws that are rarely followed

[4X4]

Ones that haven't been mentioned yet that I HATE:

People turning left over a double solid. I have zero tolerance for this. Zero. I don't care if you're an immigrant, an old lady, or a middle aged man... The very second your signal light comes on, I am leaning on my horn. My hand does not lift until you either abort the turn or are out of my way. Ditto for people trying to turn left on an intersection that has a no left turn sign (this happens to me weekly at 14th st and 17th ave).

The other thing I hate is a pedestrian issue. Shatheads that start crossing a street even though I've got a green arrow. One day I'm just going to run the f'r over and tell the cop the sun was in my eyes.
And another thing I hate about pedestrians are the a-holes that start crossing the street even though the don't walk sign is flashing. Cars need to get through, too, a-holes!

[Shazam]

Calgary is the only place I've driven where I get tailgated in the right lane. Bizarre.

People here are amazingly slow when the light turns green. Move, idiots!

Left turns are allowed on red if both streets are one way. This is why I hate driving downtown.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

Four-way stop, the car that has the right of way is the car to the RIGHT of the previous car, NOT the order you arrived at the intersection!

That drives me nuts, I go to go, and someone cuts me off. Or I wait for the person with the right of way to go, and people wave me through like I'm an idiot. Sorry for driving properly

So you're the dunce that keeps doing this.

[FlamesKickAss]

Originally Posted by troutman

When turning left, you are supposed to go to the first available lane.

You are not supposed to change lanes in an intersection.

Not Illegal just not recommended

[You Need a Thneed]

Backing out of a driveway across a yellow line.

U-Turns at traffic lights.

[yads]

Full stop is rarely followed, although I'm pretty sure cops give tickets for this all the time.

[4X4]

If I ever get a ticket for not waiting for a pedestrian to fully cross the street, I'm going to go haywire. I've seen cops break this rule more times than I can count. I really need to keep my camera handy in my truck so that I can record it and have it on file to show a judge, should I ever be in a courtroom fighting one of those tickets.

[flip]

Originally Posted by FlamesKickAss

Not Illegal just not recommended

I already mentioned that. Just sayin'.


One thing that gets a fist thru the window is people who don't turn on their left signal light until the light turns green when I'm behind them. Happens all the time when I'm driving on 20ave N. None of the lights have turn lanes or advance greens and aholes will just sit at the light while it is red. Then as soon as the light turns green they will turn on their signal. By then it is impossible to get into the right lane to go around them.

[flip]

Originally Posted by 4X4

If I ever get a ticket for not waiting for a pedestrian to fully cross the street, I'm going to go haywire. I've seen cops break this rule more times than I can count. I really need to keep my camera handy in my truck so that I can record it and have it on file to show a judge, should I ever be in a courtroom fighting one of those tickets.

Technically, and I may be wrong here, but if there is a median you can go once they cross that. Usually I use that rule in all intersections, median or not. Once you're 50% +1 across, then I go.

[Ashartus]

Originally Posted by The Goon

Stopping for pedestrians standing at a corner (not a crosswalk) is more dangerous than just driving through. Make the pedestrian walk to a crosswalk or they can wait.

Actually, in Calgary all intersections are considered to have a crosswalk, whether it's marked or not, so long as there are sidewalks. Another law that most people growing up here know, but a lot of people who moved here do not (it's in the Calgary Traffic Bylaw). That's why you'll here police refer to "marked" and "unmarked" crosswalks.

[FlamesKickAss]

Originally Posted by flip

I already mentioned that. Just sayin'

I read it on the first page and qued up but got busy at work.

Originally Posted by flip

Another one that needs clarifying is the turning left into the first available lane. That is not always true. For example the Shag bridge over Crowchild has dotted lines that designate that you turn into the 3rd and 4th lanes because the first two exit right away again.

Now one that REALLY bothers me is when an intersection that has a 4 way stops also has the right turn lanes with yield signs. I don't know if that is clear explanation but the jist of it is that if I stop at the 4 ways stop and I'm turning left, the guy heading in towards me turns right and has a yield sign it does not mean that he has the effing right of way just because I have a stop sign and he has a yield. If that was true, a person could get stuck at a 4 way stop for eons because there could be tons of cars turning right.

for your first point, if there is "lanes" in the instersection then that is what you follow and that is what lane you go into. I believe the intersection coming off of NB deerfoot onto WB memorial is like this too!

and your second point, I am pretty sure the yield has precedence over stop sign. There is an intersection like that in shawnessy, coming out of the parking lot is a stop sign and coming across the street is a Yield. But I think it only takes precedence if it is a tie. If the person with the stop sign is there first and able to go the they would have right of way.

Thats how I view it anyways, could be wrong.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by FlamesKickAss

Not Illegal just not recommended

I'm surprised, I thought that was illegal.

As I'm on my way back to the office from lunch I'm yielding my way through a right turn at a traffic-light intersection.

Just as I accelerate into the right lane some jagoff (in a huge truck) darts from the left lane into my right lane as he is passing through the intersection.

He would've clobbered me if I hadn't continued to look after deciding it was safe.

[Peanut]

I have to admit I'm really bad for forgetting it's okay to turn at red lights.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Peanut

I have to admit I'm really bad for forgetting it's okay to turn at red lights.

If I'm ever behind you, I'll be more than happy to remind you, via my horn.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by FlamesKickAss

and your second point, I am pretty sure the yield has precedence over stop sign. There is an intersection like that in shawnessy, coming out of the parking lot is a stop sign and coming across the street is a Yield. But I think it only takes precedence if it is a tie. If the person with the stop sign is there first and able to go the they would have right of way.

Thats how I view it anyways, could be wrong.

If there is a concrete pedestrian island separating the right turn lane (the only places I can think of what flip is describing always do) then the person with the yield has to wait for the person who is already through the stop sign.

Basically, for the person with a yield, it doesn't matter whether there is a four way stop or not. If it's clear, they can go, if there's a car going to enter the lane they want to go into, then they have to wait.

[gottabekd]

Originally Posted by flip

Technically, and I may be wrong here, but if there is a median you can go once they cross that. Usually I use that rule in all intersections, median or not. Once you're 50% +1 across, then I go.

Makes sense, but I don't think this is true.

http://www.qp.alberta.ca/574.cfm?pag...cln=0779738624

When a pedestrian has indicated the intention to cross the street in accordance with this section, a person driving a vehicle shall stop the vehicle before entering the crosswalk and allow the pedestrian to cross.

So, if they get out of your way, and you proceed without running them over, you allowed them to cross. Seriously, I, and likely many others don't know what you are really supposed to do. Hey, I don't mind waiting for them to get all the way across, but people behind me may mind, so if it is safe to proceed, I'll go.


Here's one that REALLY bothers me:

When driving a vehicle in a school zone or a playground zone, the person shall not drive the vehicle so as to pass or attempt to pass another vehicle that is moving in the same direction in the school zone or the playground zone during any period of time that the speed limit established or prescribed for the school zone or playground zone is in effect.

I drive 30 in these zones. If you drive 45 and pass me on the right, then try to change back into my lane because the right lane is blocked, you are getting the finger and honk.

On a related note: Parents, when dropping your kids off at school, being in a playground zone or school zone does not mean you have the right of way over the cars. Leading your kids across 4 lanes of traffic (and a median) is not the correct way to teach them about road safety. You see the controlled intersection 4 car lengths ahead? Use that to get across the street.

[flip]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

If there is a concrete pedestrian island separating the right turn lane (the only places I can think of what flip is describing always do) then the person with the yield has to wait for the person who is already through the stop sign.

Basically, for the person with a yield, it doesn't matter whether there is a four way stop or not. If it's clear, they can go, if there's a car going to enter the lane they want to go into, then they have to wait.

Yeah, my point is only with 4 way stops. Otherwise the person at the stop sign yields to the person with the yield sign.

Basically in my example, the person at the 4 way in essance has a temporary green light, so to speak, when it is their turn to go.

To put it more clearly imagine I'm heading North and another guy is heading South. We both approach the same intersection. I stop, wait my turn and procede to turn left. That means I'll now be heading Westbound. The guy heading South is turning right, and doesn't have to stop at the stop sign because the road in question has a right turn lane that yields to Westbound traffic.

Since I've already stopped, and it is now my turn to proceed (remember 4 way stop), I in essance have the right of way over ALL other traffic. When I turn left into the only Westbound lane, ######bag heading South and turning right onto Westbound lane DOES NOT have the right of way over me. BUT it happens all the time that the person thinks that my stop sign means I have to wait for him. Unfortunately if this was the case I could get stuck at the 4 way forever.


Here is my horrible, horrible Paint interpretation of the scene. It isn't to scale and I only drew a right turn lane on one corner. Nevertheless I think it makes sense.

North is up, West is left.

[4X4]

Me no see pic.

[flip]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Me no see pic.

Really? I can see it.

It is pretty horrible even if you can. I'm not sure anyone but me will think it makes sense.

[Dion]

- Drivers who come to a complete stop at the end of a merge lane.