My Friend Is a Teacher, And The Boss Sucks! Advice?

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

I know you're kidding, but do you have any idea the amount of time that goes into lesson planning, assessment etc that all goes into creating an effective learning environment?

If you did, I highly doubt you'd make such a joke.

/rant

Well I don't want to derail this thread, but give me a break. I don't see teachers doing ANY work all summer long, or over Christmas, or over Easter. It's a well-paid gravy job that requires no more overtime during the 2/3 of the year they actually work than any other job. In fact, I believe it requires less work. Ever seen the staff parking lot at a school at 4:30? All the cars are long gone. Marking at home you might say? Well most professional jobs keep going long after the day is done as well. That's life, teachers.

Plus the pension is incredible. Teachers have nothing to complain about. Being a teacher in Alberta is probably one of the best jobs in the history of mankind yet they complain all the time about it.

/rant

[Sliver]

Ewww. Bad way to start the new page.

[mykalberta]

They dont get paid well but the summers off make up for it for the most part.

Nursing is the biggest cake job in the province IMO.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Well I don't want to derail this thread, but give me a break. I don't see teachers doing ANY work all summer long, or over Christmas, or over Easter. It's a well-paid gravy job that requires no more overtime during the 2/3 of the year they actually work than any other job. In fact, I believe it requires less work. Ever seen the staff parking lot at a school at 4:30? All the cars are long gone. Marking at home you might say? Well most professional jobs keep going long after the day is done as well. That's life, teachers.

Plus the pension is incredible. Teachers have nothing to complain about. Being a teacher in Alberta is probably one of the best jobs in the history of mankind yet they complain all the time about it.

/rant

This is how teacher threads always end up. People like you who have actually no clue what the teacher does when you are not around. You assume that they do absolutly nothing once the school bell rings. Your statement above just shows how little you know.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

They dont get paid well but the summers off make up for it for the most part.

Nursing is the biggest cake job in the province IMO.

While they do well financially, I think it takes a special kind of person to be a nurse.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

This is how teacher threads always end up. People like you who have actually no clue what the teacher does when you are not around. You assume that they do absolutly nothing once the school bell rings. Your statement above just shows how little you know.

Whatever. I jobshadowed a bunch of different teachers for 12 years. I have a very good idea of what they do.

[jolinar of malkshor]

My how easy it is to knock another persons profession. It seems so many people know just how easy the life of others are. Unless you have actually worked in that profession or are directly involved with it, no one can say how easy another job is. Even if one works in a certain profession and one claim how easy the job is, it maybe so in that persons area but the same job can be very different in another jursidiction or in a different specialty within that profession.

I think people need to be a little more empathetic.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Whatever. I jobshadowed a bunch of different teachers for 12 years. I have a very good idea of what they do.

So you went home with them after school to and lived with them for the whole school year to see exactly what they really do?

[Sliver]

Yes, teachers ooze empathy towards the rest of us working stiffs during their three months off a year. No wait they don't, but they complain to us that we should be paying them more.

They are public employees and their remuneration is fair game to critique, particularly when they go on strike/threaten to go on strike every time their contract comes up for renewal.

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

While they do well financially, I think it takes a special kind of person to be a nurse.

I am pretty sure they don't make that much money, especailly considering they have to clean p*ss and s**t...

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

So you went home with them after school to and lived with them for the whole school year to see exactly what they really do?

lol at the whole school year. Average the hours they work over a full year. It's a part-time job with a full-time salary and one of the best benefit packages any human in the history of the planet has ever recieved.

[Boblobla]

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Sliver

lol at the whole school year. Average the hours they work over a full year. It's a part-time job with a full-time salary and one of the best benefit packages any human in the history of the planet has ever recieved.

You know what, I am not going to debate this again, it has been done on CP many times, you are welcome to go search through those threads and read all the points about how teachers put in enough if not more hours than a regular work week.

Attitudes like yours is why the US educational system is so F'd up in many of the states. Treating teachers like they are lowly public servants who do not deserve appropriate pay is one reason you dont get quality education.

Treating the education system with your attitude is very dangerous given that the future and prosperity of our country depends on high quality education, teaching and learning for our most precious resource, our children.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Sliver

lol at the whole school year. Average the hours they work over a full year. It's a part-time job with a full-time salary and one of the best benefit packages any human in the history of the planet has ever recieved.

Well you didnt answer my question only deflected it.

[Yeah_Baby]

How much "summer" do teachers get in all reality? Not as much as you'd think.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

You know what, I am not going to debate this again, it has been done on CP many times, you are welcome to go search through those threads and read all the points about how teachers put in enough if not more hours than a regular work week.

Attitudes like yours is why the US educational system is so F'd up in many of the states. Treating teachers like they are lowly public servants who do not deserve appropriate pay is one reason you dont get quality education.

Treating the education system with your attitude is very dangerous given that the future and prosperity of our country depends on high quality education, teaching and learning for our most precious, our children.

lol, thanks Oprah.

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Well you didnt answer my question only deflected it.

I think I've been thorough in my answers.

[Sample00]

I finally get to use my ignore button for the very first time.

getting back to the topic at hand, I feel for your friend. I would suggest that an open dialogue to her principal would be the best suggestion I can make.

You have to remember as well, you dont know what the principal has been told about the school by the superintendent. He may have been asked to go in and do a clean up job. It happens in schools much like it happens in business. From a teacher perspective, all may seem rosey. From an administrative perspective it could be the other way.

With the government seeking cutbacks to the budgets maybe this is their way of reducing the amount of teachers in the building.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Sample00

I finally get to use my ignore button for the very first time.

getting back to the topic at hand, I feel for your friend. I would suggest that an open dialogue to her principal would be the best suggestion I can make.

You have to remember as well, you dont know what the principal has been told about the school by the superintendent. He may have been asked to go in and do a clean up job. It happens in schools much like it happens in business. From a teacher perspective, all may seem rosey. From an administrative perspective it could be the other way.

With the government seeking cutbacks to the budgets maybe this is their way of reducing the amount of teachers in the building.

I'd imagine being a principal is one of those crappy jobs like being a middle manager. You get the crap from the bottom and the top and you can't make everybody happy.

[mykalberta]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

I am pretty sure they don't make that much money, especailly considering they have to clean p*ss and s**t...

A NURSE (4 yr BSC Nursing) do not do that. LPN do that - at least that is how it is at the UofA hospital.

And I mean cake from money, not how easy the job is. It takes a special person to be a good nurse, not a generic nurse. 2 years ago I know a nurse who made 187K with OT (10yr experience). The way the Health system is gamed is sickening.

I also know the hospital admin at the MIS in Edmonton - the place where the green light laser is about to be removed from funding because Alberta Health Services only pay 5K per procedure but it costs 18K.

[Camronius]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

They dont get paid well but the summers off make up for it for the most part.

Nursing is the biggest cake job in the province IMO.

I think this is one of the stupidest posts I have ever read. Nursing is anything but a cake job.

I wouldn't trade any of my jobs over the past few years to be a murse.