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Old 09-11-2009, 12:38 PM   #21
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I think she has a vagina, but internal male organs.
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:49 PM   #22
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Yeah, I feel bad for her having to go through what I'm sure is a very difficult discovery on a very public stage. Hermaphrodism isn't particularly well understood in the western world, and I imagine (stereotyping a bit here and I have no idea what sort of culture she was brought up in) that in the sexually superstitious cultures of some parts of africa, this sort of condition would be treated pretty harshly.
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:54 PM   #23
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Does this qualify you to the "special" olympics then?
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:47 PM   #24
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I feel sorry for her. She had no way of knowing that should had testes up inside her. They are letting her keep the medal, but now I am guessing her career is done? And for the whole world to know about this condition has to suck. This is the kind of crap that makes people suicidal.
You'd think that she would have figured it out when she didn't get a period her entire life.

Possible olmpic atheletes probably get pretty good medical attention.
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Old 09-11-2009, 03:20 PM   #25
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You'd think that she would have figured it out when she didn't get a period her entire life.

Possible olmpic atheletes probably get pretty good medical attention.
A lot of professional athletes that are women don't have periods because of the rigorous training. Also, I believe that some hermaphrodites can have periods.
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Old 09-11-2009, 03:28 PM   #26
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Chyna has a penis and they still let her compete against other women...

Maybe they're being too hard on this fella and should let ___ continue to compete against women.
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Old 09-11-2009, 03:51 PM   #27
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Old 09-11-2009, 04:17 PM   #28
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i wonder if the hog is big enough for actual self-penetration
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Old 09-11-2009, 04:20 PM   #29
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Only thing I'm curious about is if it gets to keep it's medal it won.
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Old 09-11-2009, 04:39 PM   #30
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Only thing I'm curious about is if it gets to keep it's medal it won.
That's kind of offside (along with other indefinite pronouns). She is self-identified as female, regardless of internal organs and is not an object or animal.

That said, it's not fair for her to compete against ovaried women - testosterone is a performance enhancing substance, whether produced naturally by a freak of birth or by injection. She should keep her medal but should not be allowed to train and compete with her current hormone levels.
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Old 09-11-2009, 04:48 PM   #31
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That said, it's not fair for her to compete against ovaried women - testosterone is a performance enhancing substance, whether produced naturally by a freak of birth or by injection. She should keep her medal but should not be allowed to train and compete with her current hormone levels.
Isn't that kind of a cop out? If she can't compete with women in the future then why should her past results against women count.

It's gotta be either or. She's either a woman with a medal, or not a woman without a medal.

Edit: IT depends what your definition of IT is
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I am with Sid Seixero from the Score on this one. If it's true, then she will lose her medal, but why would you publish this report before anything is even close to being released by the people doing the testing?

Can you imagine what she is going through, and at 18? Leaking this early was just not necessary.
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Old 09-11-2009, 10:52 PM   #34
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That's kind of offside (along with other indefinite pronouns). She is self-identified as female, regardless of internal organs and is not an object or animal.
Sure. But no matter what I said someone was going to post a comment about it. If I say "she" someone makes a comment, if I say "he" someone makes a comment. I figured I was safe with "it" but I guess not.

Does this wonderful human being get to keep the medal or not?
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Old 09-11-2009, 11:02 PM   #35
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I say equality for all! We are all one race, the human race. So let's all race together!

End sexism in sports NAO!
No kidding. I totally want to get in the Octagon with Danica Patrick!!!



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Danica Patrick. The epitome of "sport hot".
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Old 09-12-2009, 12:27 AM   #37
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It's gotta be either or. She's either a woman with a medal, or not a woman without a medal.
Pretty sure the medals won't be stripped since they usually will only do that for cheating. Given the circumstances, I don't think this could count as cheating.
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Pretty sure the medals won't be stripped since they usually will only do that for cheating. Given the circumstances, I don't think this could count as cheating.
Cheating, maybe not. But how is this not competing outside of the rules?

Frankly I don't care what the ruling is, but the line must be drawn here. Either he/shes can compete as women or they can't.
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Chyna has a penis and they still let her compete against other women...
Are you seriuos or just kidding?
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Pretty sure the medals won't be stripped since they usually will only do that for cheating. Given the circumstances, I don't think this could count as cheating.
So she will be able to continue to race with the women too?
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