Battle of Alberta - Part 3: Stamps vs Eskimos

[Canuck-Hater]

What a finish! Copeland is unreal this season. GAWD DAM I love it when Edmonton loses!

[SteveToms]

I may not be a fan of the CFL, by those uniforms they had for the games tonight are awesome.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

Why would the clock stop without Copeland being touched in that previous game? He couldn't have gone down by contact with one second left. Cuthbert had no clue on that comment. The clock would have ran to zero.

Don't they blow the play dead when you take a knee and go to the ground? Sure why not? when a QB slides down no one touches him and the whistle goes.

Oh and for all the noobs who missed out on Lanny McDonald before he got banned, just read the first couple of pages in this thread by Rubecube. hehe.
For a guy who hates the CFL you sure watch quite a bit of it.

I have now rewatched that last drive 3 times now. GOOOOO Stamps!!

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Don't they blow the play dead when you take a knee and go to the ground? Sure why not? when a QB slides down no one touches him and the whistle goes.

Oh and for all the noobs who missed out on Lanny McDonald before he got banned, just read the first couple of pages in this thread by Rubecube. hehe.
For a guy who hates the CFL you sure watch quite a bit of it.

I have now rewatched that last drive 3 times now. GOOOOO Stamps!!

Its true! In the CFL, if they could have the personnel changed over in time for the snap at the whistle of the ref, then they could have kicked the FG. The particular play must finish despite the clock running out.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Its true! In the CFL, if they could have the personnel changed over in time for the snap at the whistle of the ref, then they could have kicked the FG. The particular play must finish despite the clock running out.

yeah and for sure they would have gotten everyone out in the 20 seconds before the snap of the ball.

Well Copeland atones for anything and everything he has ever done wrong these past 3 weeks! I have to admit i wasnt' his biggest fan before. Always doing those stupid celebrations and even celebrating after a first down. But after that threat that they were not going to re-sign him, him and Lewis have totally changed!

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

yeah and for sure they would have gotten everyone out in the 20 seconds before the snap of the ball.

Well Copeland atones for anything and everything he has ever done wrong these past 3 weeks! I have to admit i wasnt' his biggest fan before. Always doing those stupid celebrations and even celebrating after a first down. But after that threat that they were not going to re-sign him, him and Lewis have totally changed!

Copeland wants to win. I smell it.

[3 Justin 3]

We won? WOOOHOOO

And yeah, Copeland is amazing.

[Smell My Finger]

Absolutly epic comeback. Henry had to be perfect on that drive. Copeland is the best damn 32 year old in the game. 32 going on 25. He knew he was going to get blasted on that endzone catch, but was so dialed in. Burris through an absolute bullit of a pass.
I still can't believe it back to back in this series has never been done before.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Smell My Finger

I still can't believe it back to back in this series has never been done before.

U sure? I thought I caught on TSN that back to back wins had happened 3 times since 1989 (now 4) unless they were talking only about Edmonton back to back wins, but I doubt it.

Either way unreal comeback. That's what the Stamps needed, to pull one out of the fire at the last minute. They had a couple of games where they really should have walked away with wins, this starts to make up for it.

[moon]

Originally Posted by zamler

U sure? I thought I caught on TSN that back to back wins had happened 3 times since 1989 (now 4) unless they were talking only about Edmonton back to back wins, but I doubt it.

Either way unreal comeback. That's what the Stamps needed, to pull one out of the fire at the last minute. They had a couple of games where they really should have walked away with wins, this starts to make up for it.

This is the 6th time the Stamps swept the two games and the Esks have done it 7 times. 12 times they have split the two games.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Don't they blow the play dead when you take a knee and go to the ground? Sure why not? when a QB slides down no one touches him and the whistle goes.

Oh and for all the noobs who missed out on Lanny McDonald before he got banned, just read the first couple of pages in this thread by Rubecube. hehe.
For a guy who hates the CFL you sure watch quite a bit of it.

I have now rewatched that last drive 3 times now. GOOOOO Stamps!!

I'm just starved for football. NFL season starts tomorrow so I'll be fine after that. I generally don't even watch the Grey Cup because it cuts into an NFL game.

If you're wondering why us NFL snobs look down on the CFL, the two games tonight were classic examples. The two teams that sucked the least ended up winning, as opposed to the better team winning. Burris threw 3 INT and looked amateur all night, Ryan looked like he was trying to handle a live hand grenade, and the winning TD had more to do with the safety being out of position than anything else.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Blah blah blah NFL blah blah blah NFL blah blah blah

You're in the wrong thread. You want this thread here, where the discussion is about NFL vs CFL vs NCAA: http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=79094.

No need to thank me, I get a buzz out of helping people.

[Pastiche]

Wow. Nice troll. This game is exhibit A of why I think the cfL is WAY better than NFL. You NEVER see an NFL game like that. High scoring, tonnes of great passing plays, incredible drives.

Enjoy your league of hype, glitz and no substance.

[Pastiche]

The two teams that sucked the least ended up winning, as opposed to the better team winning.

Seriously, this is just ######ed. Do you like the NHL? Because this is often the case, the better team doesn't win. Does that make the NHL an inferior league?

[JohnnyFlame]

LOL that was unfortunately just about what I expected. It was like watching a different team from the one that played only a few days ago.

Did they forget how to tackle? Did Henry develop color blindness? Where did all that intensity go?

All I can say is thanks to the Esks for not taking advantage and kudo's to Henry for just keeping on plugging away. It didn't fill me with confidence but it's an important two points and there is plenty of time to become more consistent. Plus reinforcements for next game which should give them hopefully a pass rush.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by rubecube

If you're wondering why us NFL snobs look down on the CFL, the two games tonight were classic examples. The two teams that sucked the least ended up winning, as opposed to the better team winning. Burris threw 3 INT and looked amateur all night, Ryan looked like he was trying to handle a live hand grenade, and the winning TD had more to do with the safety being out of position than anything else.

Every score in the NFL is a result of someone making a mistake too. If there are more mistakes in the CFL, it is because the ball is put in risk much more often, because of the three downs. Different games. It is useless to argue which is "better".

It's okay to like both leagues. I do.

[Yeah_Baby]

I personally get a kick out of the football flame war. I swear some people think it in their patriotic duty to defend the CFL.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Don't they blow the play dead when you take a knee and go to the ground? Sure why not? when a QB slides down no one touches him and the whistle goes.

The rules are different for QBs, to protect them from being hit. Even if the rule was possible, the clock would likely still have run out.

Originally Posted by 2009 CFL Rulebook

The ball is dead:
• Whenever a field official blows the whistle
• When an official has signalled a score
• When the ball goes Out of Bounds
• When a forward pass is declared incomplete
• When a kicked ball strikes the opponent’s goal post assembly in flight, without
first touching the ground, a player or an official
• When the ball carrier is tackled and the forward progress has been halted
(tackling is defined as the act of grasping or encircling a ball carrier with hands and
arms)
• When the ball carrier behind the line of scrimmage is firmly in the grasp and
control of a tackler to the extent that the ball cannot be thrown
• When a ball carrier is tackled and driven back towards the ball carrier’s own
Goal Line, an official must assume that an attempt was being made to advance the
ball and that only the actual contact with an opponent prevented such advance.
Therefore, the most forward point of advance shall be considered the point where the
ball became dead
• When the ball carrier is contacted by an opponent and loses balance so that a
portion of the body, other than hands or feet touches the ground, the ball shall be
dead at the point where it was held when touching the ground, or the point where the
ball was held when contacted, whichever is the furthest point of advance
• When the quarterback, in possession of the ball, intentionally kneels on the
ground during the last three minutes of a half
• When the quarterback, in possession of the ball, dives in a feet first sliding
motion, the ball shall be declared dead at the point it was held when another part of
the quarterback’s body, other than hands or feet, touch the ground
• When a player, having possession of the ball in own Goal Area, intentionally
kneels on the ground
• When a ball carrier is on the ground and, in the judgment of the official, is not
attempting to advance the ball, the official shall immediately declare the ball dead.

I don't see anything in there that would suggest a player can just kneel down to immediately stop a play.

[You Need a Thneed]

What would be legal, (I'm looking through the rule book right now, and I haven't seen anything saying it's not legal) would have been for Copeland to catch the ball, immediately turn and place the ball on the ground (like a holder for a field goal, and have Sandro run up behind him and attempt a field goal, or alternatively, lateral the ball to someone who would attempt a drop kick.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

The rules are different for QBs, to protect them from being hit. Even if the rule was possible, the clock would likely still have run out.



I don't see anything in there that would suggest a player can just kneel down to immediately stop a play.

I think in the last minute of a game the refs are more lenient to calling guys down (in any league). Otherwise the defense could just hover over them and let the seconds tick off. If there's a defender anywhere in the vicinity refs usually let guys down themselves on purpose.