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Old 09-10-2009, 05:26 PM   #241
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The NFL starts tonight and I'll bet you $100 the Pittsburgh game tonight gets better ratings in Canada than any of the four games over this past weekend in the CFL. Deal?
TV viewership determines what's "better?" So, bass fishing, poker and spelling bees are "better" than the NHL because they've got dramatically higher ratings in some areas of the US?

I guess I should stop watching Breaking Bad because Dancing With the Stars is a far better program..........ratings wise.

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Old 09-10-2009, 06:26 PM   #242
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Whatever. The CFL is minor league. Enjoy it for what it is - minor league football.

The NFL starts tonight and I'll bet you $100 the Pittsburgh game tonight gets better ratings in Canada than any of the four games over this past weekend in the CFL. Deal?
Doubt it. How bout when you're wrong you donate that $100 to CP, I'm sure Bingo will appreciate it.
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:42 PM   #243
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You don't get a point for missing a field goal you get a point for kicking it out of the end zone something that actually rarely happens on missed field goals as the returner generally runs it out of the endzone. What you are saying is basically the same thing as saying its stupid that you get three points for failing to get a touchdown. The multiple ways to score points in football (CFL and NFL) is something different from most sports and one of the things that makes it such a great game.
2 seconds on the clock from the 40 yard line, do you think the kicker really cares about making the FG? no, he kicks it as hard as he can knowing he can win the game if he misses...it's a joke.
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Learn to read. Obviously what I meant is that players from crappy colleges are more willing to come up to Canada. There are far fewer players from real universities that provide quality educations up in the CFL.

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Ohh, GREAT comeback. Your points all get disproved and you respond with "whatever"....comical.

Back to the Labour Day game? Or even the re-match that goes tomorrow night....or should we just change the title to NFL vs. CFL?

Doubtful that George and/or Hughes play tomorrow, but it's great to see some experience and hard-nosed players back on defense.
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Actually it's a rule to protect the players, much like penalties for facemasks, horse-collar tackes, etc.
Poor wording on my part and yes I do agree. The 5 yard rule in the CFL is the same thing.

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I agree it's a strategy but still it takes away an exciting element of the game. I'm sure you've seen returns where they player is seemingly trapped but manages to dodge a tackle or 2 and ends up with a huge return or a TD.
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:47 PM   #246
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2 seconds on the clock from the 40 yard line, do you think the kicker really cares about making the FG? no, he kicks it as hard as he can knowing he can win the game if he misses...it's a joke.
So, the kicker is going to kick it 67 yards through the end zone? I don't think so. He's got to make the FG. When a team is close enough that the kicker can kick it through the end zone, the kicker doesn't miss too many field goals. Teams give up single points earlier in the game because it almost always makes more sense to give up a point and get the ball on the 35, rather than starting on your own 5 or 10 yard line.

The scenario you talk about can happen, but it really is quite rare. I was at a game in Calgary about 4-5 years ago where it did happen, the game was tied, Toronto drove the ball to roughly the 20 yard line, and then lined up for a FG on the last play. I don't think the kicker even tried to aim for the uprights. But really, it probably only happens once every 4-5 years, at most.

Even with gaining a single point, missing a FG actually benefits the kicking team VERY rarely. Missing a short kick and gaining a single point "benefits" the kicking team, but really, they've LOST two points with the miss, instead of gaining one. On longer kicks, teams giving up singles do so because they think it benefits them, therefore it isn't benefitting the kicking team.
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So, the kicker is going to kick it 67 yards through the end zone? I don't think so. He's got to make the FG. When a team is close enough that the kicker can kick it through the end zone, the kicker doesn't miss too many field goals. Teams give up single points earlier in the game because it almost always makes more sense to give up a point and get the ball on the 35, rather than starting on your own 5 or 10 yard line.

The scenario you talk about can happen, but it really is quite rare. I was at a game in Calgary about 4-5 years ago where it did happen, the game was tied, Toronto drove the ball to roughly the 20 yard line, and then lined up for a FG on the last play. I don't think the kicker even tried to aim for the uprights. But really, it probably only happens once every 4-5 years, at most.

Even with gaining a single point, missing a FG actually benefits the kicking team VERY rarely. Missing a short kick and gaining a single point "benefits" the kicking team, but really, they've LOST two points with the miss, instead of gaining one. On longer kicks, teams giving up singles do so because they think it benefits them, therefore it isn't benefitting the kicking team.
I was at that game too. He didn't even try to hit the FG. I think it might have actually been a punt that they lined up for.
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2 seconds on the clock from the 40 yard line, do you think the kicker really cares about making the FG? no, he kicks it as hard as he can knowing he can win the game if he misses...it's a joke.
How often does this scenario REALLY occur? As well, 40-yard K attempt would most likely be run out of the endzone with ease, possibly with a massive return.

I'm sure all of you NFL snobs'll think this is Mickey Mouse, but I recall a playoff game back in the 70s where both opposing punters were on the field and the ball was booted back and forth at least a half dozen times.

It sticks out because it was one of the most exciting games I've ever seen.
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I'm sure all of you NFL snobs'll think this is Mickey Mouse, but I recall a playoff game back in the 70s where both opposing punters were on the field and the ball was booted back and forth at least a half dozen times.

It sticks out because it was one of the most exciting games I've ever seen.
IIRC one of the teams was Winnipeg and the game was in Winnipeg. Just can't remember who the other team was.
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I was at that game too. He didn't even try to hit the FG. I think it might have actually been a punt that they lined up for.
I remember them lining up with the FG team, though I think I remember thinking that perhaps they should just send in the punt team.
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I'm sure all of you NFL snobs'll think this is Mickey Mouse, but I recall a playoff game back in the 70s where both opposing punters were on the field and the ball was booted back and forth at least a half dozen times.

It sticks out because it was one of the most exciting games I've ever seen.
That's one of the things I like about the CFL, it still has some rugby elements left in it. I just wish you'd see some of it more often.
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The NFL starts tonight and I'll bet you $100 the Pittsburgh game tonight gets better ratings in Canada than any of the four games over this past weekend in the CFL. Deal?
The 10-7 snoozer with six minutes left? Dream on. There were more thrills and chills at my son's Novice hockey evaluation tonight.
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The 10-7 snoozer with six minutes left? Dream on. There were more thrills and chills at my son's Novice hockey evaluation tonight.
Yeah, but it will still have higher ratings than your pathetic CFL.

Just like how the spelling bees and bowling own the NHL in ratings down in the USA.

People just don't care for a crappy product. They'd rather watch bowling. Sad really.
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The 10-7 snoozer with six minutes left? Dream on. There were more thrills and chills at my son's Novice hockey evaluation tonight.
Please. I wouldn't expect a CFL fan to know good defense when he sees it, but this has been an excellent game. Lots of big plays on both sides of the ball.

I love CFL fans that think more offense/scoring=better but then also think a 1-0 NHL game is more compelling than a 6-5 game.
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Yeah, but it will still have higher ratings than your pathetic CFL.

Just like how the spelling bees and bowling own the NHL in ratings down in the USA.

People just don't care for a crappy product. They'd rather watch bowling. Sad really.
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Please. I wouldn't expect a CFL fan to know good defense
Ah, the patronizing approach. We've seen a bit of it in this thread.
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Ah, the patronizing approach. We've seen a bit of it in this thread.
Okay, attack the part of the post that wasn't serious and refuse to debate the rest of it.
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Please. I wouldn't expect a CFL fan to know good defense when he sees it, but this has been an excellent game. Lots of big plays on both sides of the ball.

I love CFL fans that think more offense/scoring=better but then also think a 1-0 NHL game is more compelling than a 6-5 game.
I saw an NFL exhibition game in Minnesota a few weeks back. All the hype about Favre's return and the game was a snooze fest.
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I saw an NFL exhibition game in Minnesota a few weeks back. All the hype about Favre's return and the game was a snooze fest.
You can't really compare exhibition games with the real product. One of the worst football games I've ever seen was a Stamps preseason game against the Lions back in the Crandell days. I wouldn't use it as a measuring stick for the rest of the CFL.
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Okay, attack the part of the post that wasn't serious and refuse to debate the rest of it.
Debate what? You're welcome to your opinion, just as I'm welcome to mine.
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