I hate smokers throwing butts on the ground

[Matata]

Originally Posted by EDBTZ12

Doing my homework? Please...you are delusional if you think marijuana makes more money than coke and crack.

1g of bud= $10
1g of coke= $120

Coke and especially crack are more addicting than weed. You seriously think that Gangs make more money selling weed than coke and crack? If you do then you fail.


Ask a drug dealer that you know and I'm sure you must know at least one what makes more and i can guarantee you that they will say coke and crack make more.

I'm not talking about how much dealers make. I'm well aware that crack dealers make way more than pot dealers. I'm talking in terms of industry here, y'know, overall consumption, supply and demand. There is a much, much, much larger market for weed and and the cost/profit ratio is superior to any other drug.

You forgot to mention all the crack factories that happen in Calgary but never get busted. Marijuana houses are a lot easier to get busted and that's why you only hear about them in the news.

btw not everything on TV is true.

You're so stupid I don't know how to even approach you, I'm certain nothing will stick. You're incapable of disagreeing with someone without being insulting and it always comes down to 'me vs you' rather than 'lets figure this out'. All your posts are ugly and abrasive, I really wish this site had an ignore feature (e: there is!), failing that, I will no longer read or respond to anything you post on this site (I will read whatever whatever smug one-liner or ego-rant you respond to this post with, so make it good or don't bother.)

[EDBTZ12]

Originally Posted by Matata

I'm not talking about how much dealers make. I'm well aware that crack dealers make way more than pot dealers. I'm talking in terms of industry here, y'know, overall consumption, supply and demand. There is a much, much, much larger market for weed and and the cost/profit ratio is superior to any other drug.

You responded to my comment regarding gang profit not overall industry.

You must have read my post wrong. Marijuana make the big big boys money i understand but coke and crack make GANGS the money. What part of that is so hard to understand?


You're so stupid I don't know how to even approach you, I'm certain nothing will stick. You're incapable of disagreeing with someone without being insulting and it always comes down to 'me vs you' rather than 'lets figure this out'. All your posts are ugly and abrasive, I really wish this site had an ignore feature, failing that, I will no longer read or respond to anything you post on this site (I will read whatever whatever smug one-liner or ego-rant you respond to this post with, so make it good or don't bother.)

dbl post

[EDBTZ12]

Originally Posted by Matata

I'm not talking about how much dealers make. I'm well aware that crack dealers make way more than pot dealers. I'm talking in terms of industry here, y'know, overall consumption, supply and demand. There is a much, much, much larger market for weed and and the cost/profit ratio is superior to any other drug.

You responded to my comment regarding gang profit not overall industry.




You're so stupid I don't know how to even approach you, I'm certain nothing will stick. You're incapable of disagreeing with someone without being insulting and it always comes down to 'me vs you' rather than 'lets figure this out'. All your posts are ugly and abrasive, I really wish this site had an ignore feature, failing that, I will no longer read or respond to anything you post on this site (I will read whatever whatever smug one-liner or ego-rant you respond to this post with, so make it good or don't bother.)

You must have read my post wrong. Marijuana make the big big boys money i understand but coke and crack make GANGS the money. What part of that is so hard to understand?

There actually is a ignore feature and you're now on mine.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by EDBTZ12

Doing my homework? Please...you are delusional if you think marijuana makes more money than coke and crack.

1g of bud= $10
1g of coke= $120

Maybe you should do some homework yourself. The only way a gram of coke costs $120 is if you're taking a road trip to Colombia to get it.

[DOK]

Originally Posted by flip

Threads like this make me want to throw my butts on the ground just to annoy people.

As we've been through many times on CP, to me the extremely anti smoking crowd just want something to complain about. I also dislike inconsiderate people and I'm could create a dozen threads on the things that annoy me. However I like to think that when it comes to things that annoy me I'm not just as inconsiderate back to them.

Let me be clear I think that people have the right to avoid smoke and litter just as people have the right to smoke. My point here is that something about this topic makes people completely polarized and get very angry about things that in the grand scheme of things are fairly minor.

In some cases peoples attitudes are no different than people egging on a person with severe road rage. Sure I hate bad driving but I don't scream at and belittle every bad driver I see. I just deal with it and move on.

Not saying it is all of CP that has this attitude but the high horse and holier than thou comments seem to be front and center when smoking comes up.

Something about smoking that makes a small group of people act like compete aholes and as such makes me less likely to be courteous just out of spite. I guess the fact that I casually smoke means I'm automatically a hindrance and degenerate in society who needs to be systematically wiped out makes me a little bit defensive. The common misconception that anyone who enjoys having a smoke is a piece of trash is a pretty demeaning.

I'll admit it seems that not everyone feels this way but much like the anti abortion people the stupid seems to drown out the sensible and all I hear are the ludicrous complaints and anti smoker rhetoric.

For the rest of you who are polite about not wanting smoke near you and litter, I'm sorry but until the aholes quit pissing me off I'm not going to change.

That being said I rarely throw my butts on the ground and don't have kids to smoke around but I'm sure some of the anti smoking Nazis could find something I do worth complaining about or telling me certain places I can't smoke even if I'm not inconveniencing anyone.

Valid points. Personally, I was talking about the extremes. The ones who go out of their way to be rude about it. Like you said, same goes for bad drivers, etc. But there is always threads on slow drivers in the fast lane.

I appreciate people who smoke considerately. It's harder to appreciate the smokers who do it with compassion because they don't stick out as much as the rude ones do. So, to you I say, THANK YOU!

Ps, I'm really glad I don't know how much a gram of pot or coke costs!

[flip]

Originally Posted by DOK

Valid points. Personally, I was talking about the extremes. The ones who go out of their way to be rude about it. Like you said, same goes for bad drivers, etc. But there is always threads on slow drivers in the fast lane.

I appreciate people who smoke considerately. It's harder to appreciate the smokers who do it with compassion because they don't stick out as much as the rude ones do. So, to you I say, THANK YOU!

Just because you are nice I'll stop flicking my cigarettes out my window and at kids playing in playgrounds.

In all seriousness I'm pretty considerate. I try and avoid doorways and super busy places (except concerts) but sometimes people just have to deal with a whiff of smoke that they happen to walk through if near me.

[Dion]

Well done Tiger!

[ricosuave]

Sorry Flip, until the day that they create a cigarette that is completely odourless and smokeless, the "nazi anti-smokers" will have very valid points.

Think of the smoke coming off them while lit, and compare that to you stepping on a used heroin syringe. The heroin user and the smoker have the same rights to do the drug, but it is the after effect, the potential harm to other people, which is the issue, not the right.

[Ice]

I don't understand why its so difficult for smokers to understand that their habit negatively affects other people. I'm not even talking about cancer, since smokers refuse to acknowledge second had smoke does indeed cause cancer. But it would be nice if my throat didn't have to burn or my clothing smell like smoke because a smoker can't walk 20 feet away from a crowd of people to light up. Smokers are very militant about their right to smoke and have no regard for anyone who doesn't want to breathe it in. A smokers addiction shouldn't force their habit on me. With a little common courtesy, a smoker could smoke and a non-smoker could be unaffected.

[Flashpoint]

Originally Posted by flip

As we've been through many times on CP, to me the extremely anti smoking crowd just want something to complain about.

Yes, you are right. The "anti-smoking crowd" doesn't actually have anything to complain about, so we were looking for something, and got together decided to pick on smokers for no reason.

It has nothing to do with:

• Our health
• Your health
• Our tax dollars supporting your health
• Forest fires
• Littering
• How inconsiderate smokers generally are towards others
• Addiction
• How society has become so insulated that everyone feels entitled to "do their own thing".
• Public cleanliness
• Or the cost of growing your own reefer.

It's because we are "holier than thou". That's our crew. That's the way we roll.

Shut er down guys! Flip is on to us.

[DementedReality]

when i see a smoker, i lose respect for them ... i think less of them as a person ... you may not care, but franly i think smokers are losers.

also, why is it that when i drive through industrial area's. i see a whole lot of $8 per hour factory workers smoking .. how do they get hte money?

smokers = losers

[blankall]

Originally Posted by DementedReality

when i see a smoker, i lose respect for them ... i think less of them as a person ... you may not care, but franly i think smokers are losers.

also, why is it that when i drive through industrial area's. i see a whole lot of $8 per hour factory workers smoking .. how do they get hte money?

smokers = losers

Your attitude is pretty awful. It's obvious you look down upon "8 per hour factory workers", and just use smoking as an excuse to look down on even more people.

Many of those people who work in factories work hard and they make upwards of 40 dollars an hour doing honest work we all depend on. If they want to have a cigarette to relax in the middle of a day filled with hard labour... let them.

[DementedReality]

Originally Posted by blankall

Your attitude is pretty awful. It's obvious you look down upon "8 per hour factory workers", and just use smoking as an excuse to look down on even more people.

Many of those people who work in factories work hard and they make upwards of 40 dollars an hour doing honest work we all depend on. If they want to have a cigarette to relax in the middle of a day filled with hard labour... let them.

i dont look down on them for earning 8/hr, i wonder how they can afford to smoke. i also notice that on a per capita basis, alot more low income earners smoke (and drink) then high income earners.

not to say middle class people dont smoke, they are losers too.

[GrrlGoalie33]

Originally Posted by Ice

I don't understand why its so difficult for smokers to understand that their habit negatively affects other people. I'm not even talking about cancer, since smokers refuse to acknowledge second had smoke does indeed cause cancer. But it would be nice if my throat didn't have to burn or my clothing smell like smoke because a smoker can't walk 20 feet away from a crowd of people to light up. Smokers are very militant about their right to smoke and have no regard for anyone who doesn't want to breathe it in. A smokers addiction shouldn't force their habit on me. With a little common courtesy, a smoker could smoke and a non-smoker could be unaffected.

What pisses me off (even as a recently reformed smoker) is that you (and your militant anti-smoker people) have made it pretty much impossible for a smoker to smoke anywhere. If you are in a crowd, count yourself lucky that there is only one guy lighting up.

And smokers I would guess, on average actually die sooner than non-smokers and cost the health system far less than smokers long-term.

[ricosuave]

Originally Posted by Frankster

What pisses me off (even as a recently reformed smoker) is that you (and your militant anti-smoker people) have made it pretty much impossible for a smoker to smoke anywhere. If you are in a crowd, count yourself lucky that there is only one guy lighting up.

Why do you think that it is pretty much impossible to smoke anywhere?

Originally Posted by Frankster

And smokers I would guess, on average actually die sooner than non-smokers and cost the health system far less than smokers long-term.

Wrong.

[GrrlGoalie33]

Originally Posted by ricosuave

Why do you think that it is pretty much impossible to smoke anywhere?



Wrong.

Because I am a reformed smoker. I had to go far around the corner to smoke anywhere. In a group of non-smokers, I would walk 15 feet away and they would still complain. If you have to deal with one of my smoking friends at a streetlight - suck it up...it's 15 seconds out of your life.

So I made a guess - which I clearly stated - at the health care costs. If you are so convinced that I am wrong, show me some proof.

[ricosuave]

Originally Posted by Frankster

Because I am a reformed smoker. I had to go far around the corner to smoke anywhere. In a group of non-smokers, I would walk 15 feet away and they would still complain. If you have to deal with one of my smoking friends at a streetlight - suck it up...it's 15 seconds out of your life.

So I made a guess - which I clearly stated - at the health care costs. If you are so convinced that I am wrong, show me some proof.

Its not 15 seconds out of my life, it IS my life. See my post above for a comparison and see how you react to it.

There are plenty of posts on this forum about it, and google is a wonderful thing. Feel free to look it up yourself.

[GrrlGoalie33]

Originally Posted by ricosuave

Its not 15 seconds out of my life, it IS my life. See my post above for a comparison and see how you react to it.

There are plenty of posts on this forum about it, and google is a wonderful thing. Feel free to look it up yourself.

It IS my life too, and it IS my right to smoke on a street corner.

I fully expected you to not provide proof. I still believe that my guess is closer to the truth than yours...thanks for helping me to stay with that opinion. Those who provide no proof, have no proof.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Frankster

What pisses me off (even as a recently reformed smoker) is that you (and your militant anti-smoker people) have made it pretty much impossible for a smoker to smoke anywhere. If you are in a crowd, count yourself lucky that there is only one guy lighting up.

Your smoking affects the health of others.

They had to ban smoking in the workplace because some didn't have enough consideration to take thier stinking habit outside. Suck it up was what we were told. The tables get turned and smokers cry foul when told where they can or cannot smoke. Hypocrites if you ask me.

[ricosuave]

No, I just dont care that much to waste my time to prove a point to someone who is seemingly incapable of reasonable discussion. Look up the facts yourself.

Also, I like how you completely avoid saying anything about my example.

Thanks for helping prove your stereotype.