I hate smokers throwing butts on the ground

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Ok, I'm a prick.

Exactly.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by ShaolinFlame

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As an aside, you mentioned smokes were not biodegradable. I have often heard the exact opposite. What is the trufe CP braintrust?

It's a cellulose made from wood fibres so it is biodegradable eventually.

[Regulator75]

Different groups have done different studies and their results differ, with some people saying cigarettes decompose in a year, some saying it takes twelve years, and others saying they never decompose at all (the filters are made of a type of acetate that never fully breaks down). That is not what people mean when they use the word biodegradable.

Rather than get into a scientific argument, we ask smokers who litter to use common sense. Ask yourself if the cigarette you throw down is going to disappear anytime soon. Do your own experiment. Put a cigarette in an outdoor planter (use a string or pin to secure it), and see how long it stays there. We guarantee it will be a long term experiment! However long you finally decide it takes for a cigarette to decompose, ask yourself if you would like all such "biodegradable" items to be thrown on the ground, such as cardboard containers, newspapers, Kleenex, paper grocery bags, etc. It wouldn't be pretty.

http://www.cigarettelitter.org/index...me=Smokers#bio

[KTrain]

Originally Posted by Regulator75

http://www.cigarettelitter.org/index...me=Smokers#bio

I'd prefer to hear what the tobacco lobbyists and their reports had to say. I hate one-sided studies.

[Jimmy Stang]

Originally Posted by ShaolinFlame

I am fully behind this as a smoker. I can't stand when there is an ashtray surrounded by a pile of butts. I will even usually spit on the ground and use it to put out my smoke so I can throw it in a garbage can if there is no ashtray. There is no excuse for this in Calgary really as every building tends to have an ashtray.

This, plus the dog deuce story above, reminded me of another annoyance: people who actually pick up their dog deuce but then tie the plastic bag to a tree or a fence. Nice work. So instead of being inconsiderate and leaving feces on the ground, you upped the ante and hung the feces in the park in a plastic effing bag.

And yes, to get back on topic... the cigarette thing bugs me. Especially on highways when the grass is dry. It goes from inconsiderate to dangerous.

[Igottago]

This wouldn't be an issue if people did the wise thing and just gave up smoking altogether. I am hoping that given enough time and enough enforcement of bylaws, smoking will become so inconvenient that people just won't bother anymore.

Then we can exterminate all dogs and the dog s*** issue is solved as well.

[Boblobla]

Not as much hate for smokers in this thread as there usually is. WTF CP? Lost your edge?

[ShaolinFlame]

Originally Posted by Igottago

This wouldn't be an issue if people did the wise thing and just gave up smoking altogether. I am hoping that given enough time and enough enforcement of bylaws, smoking will become so inconvenient that people just won't bother anymore.

Then we can exterminate all dogs and the dog s*** issue is solved as well.

Stop enabling the nanny state.

[KTrain]

There's nothing better than flicking a cigarette out the window of your car, while driving 140 down the Deerfoot in the slow lane, listening to Nickelback, after a night of good drinking. I'd put it out in the ash tray, but I'm too busy texting by buddy's girlfriend for a hook up. Even if I did get a ticket for littering, I'd just fight it in court rather than paying the fine. Besides, I need to get home quickly so I can teach my 1 year old to read.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by KTrain

There's nothing better than flicking a cigarette out the window of your car, while driving 140 down the Deerfoot in the slow lane, listening to Nickelback, after a night of good drinking. I'd put it out in the ash tray, but I'm too busy texting by buddy's girlfriend for a hook up. Even if I did get a ticket for littering, I'd just fight it in court rather than paying the fine. Besides, I need to get home quickly so I can teach my 1 year old to read.

Hahaha

[3 Justin 3]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

Not cigarette related but last night I was going for a walk to the park with my little sister, and this ladies dog took a dump right off the sidewalk heading to the park. She just kept walking, so I shouted "Hey, why don't you go back and clean up your dog ****?" She replied, "Uhh, I already did."

"Uhh no, actually you didn't" I say in an extremely sarcastic tone. " Because I just watched your dog take a dump right there."

She waddled back, cleaned it up, then picked up her cell and called someone. She was talking really loud so I could hear her, probably on purpose, telling whoever was on the other end that "Some ***hole just told her to clean up her dog ****" and that I "should mind my own ****ing business." She also claimed she was going to come across the street and throw the bag of dog feces at me.

She wandered over to where I was sitting beside the park, saw that I probably would have pounded the living hell out of her if she put dog feces anywhere near me, threw the bag in the garbage, and said "There, are you happy?"

My response was "F*** off." That was the end of that.

!! Your my new god.

[GrrlGoalie33]

When I was a smoker, I would try to find an appropriate place to dispose of my butt. However, as previously mentioned it is more and more difficult to find a place to properly butt out.

To Igottago - no, really, you don't want everyone to stop smoking. A single pack of cigarettes is taxed something crazy like $6 a pack. I smoked 4 packs a week, so that's $24 a week and $1248 a year. If there are 500,00 smokers in alberta, that is $6.24 million a year. Do you really want to make up all of those taxes...

[GreenLantern]

I am really sick of people constantly complaining about where I flick my cigarettes..

"OH you got that smoke on the sidewalk, pick it up!"
"That is gross and bad for the environment you handsome fellow!"
"YOU HIT MY BABY IN THE HEAD WITH YOUR LIT SMOKE!"
"YOU MOTHA#*$#*$* YOU HIT MY EYE!"
"I have asthma and will die if you don't put that smoke out sir, PLEASE!"

blah blah blah blah blah

Suck it up princess.



Seriously though, when I smoked I was ashamed of it. I rarely smoked in public places and when I did I would find an ashtray OR but out the smoke and put it in my pack, ya it stinks but it is even more gross to find it on the ground. I think this is why it was so easy for me to quit, literally one day I had a smoke and say nah.. i'm done, threw my half a pack in the dresser drawer at home and never looked back.

[3 Justin 3]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

I am really sick of people constantly complaining about where I flick my cigarettes..

"OH you got that smoke on the sidewalk, pick it up!"
"That is gross and bad for the environment you handsome fellow!"
"YOU HIT MY BABY IN THE HEAD WITH YOUR LIT SMOKE!"
"YOU MOTHA#*$#*$* YOU HIT MY EYE!"
"I have asthma and will die if you don't put that smoke out sir, PLEASE!"

blah blah blah blah blah

Suck it up princess.



Seriously though, when I smoked I was ashamed of it. I rarely smoked in public places and when I did I would find an ashtray OR but out the smoke and put it in my pack, ya it stinks but it is even more gross to find it on the ground. I think this is why it was so easy for me to quit, literally one day I had a smoke and say nah.. i'm done, threw my half a pack in the dresser drawer at home and never looked back.

"My ***** isn't an ashtray!"

[MarchHare]

To Igottago - no, really, you don't want everyone to stop smoking. A single pack of cigarettes is taxed something crazy like $6 a pack. I smoked 4 packs a week, so that's $24 a week and $1248 a year. If there are 500,00 smokers in alberta, that is $6.24 million a year. Do you really want to make up all of those taxes...

If smoking was 100% eliminated, how much of the loss of tax revenue would be made back in savings to our public healthcare system if it didn't have to treat smoking-related illnesses?

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Frankster

To Igottago - no, really, you don't want everyone to stop smoking. A single pack of cigarettes is taxed something crazy like $6 a pack. I smoked 4 packs a week, so that's $24 a week and $1248 a year. If there are 500,00 smokers in alberta, that is $6.24 million a year. Do you really want to make up all of those taxes...

Not really, but on the flipside, how much do smoking related illnesses cost our health care system? Surely we'd save some dollars on that end.

^^MarchHare beat me to it.

[tussery]

I actually work with one of the most considerate smokers I have met. We work out in the field alot in the Texas bays. If he is not around a trash can he will put his cigarette out and put the butt in his pocket until he can throw them all away in a trash can.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by Frankster

To Igottago - no, really, you don't want everyone to stop smoking. A single pack of cigarettes is taxed something crazy like $6 a pack. I smoked 4 packs a week, so that's $24 a week and $1248 a year. If there are 500,00 smokers in alberta, that is $6.24 million a year. Do you really want to make up all of those taxes...

Do you really think that all those reformed smokers are just going to stick the money they used to spend of cigarettes in their mattresses? No. They're gong to buy other things that are also taxed. So at least some of that money will be coming back.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by KTrain

There's nothing better than flicking a cigarette out the window of your car, while driving 140 down the Deerfoot in the slow lane, listening to Nickelback, after a night of good drinking. I'd put it out in the ash tray, but I'm too busy texting by buddy's girlfriend for a hook up. Even if I did get a ticket for littering, I'd just fight it in court rather than paying the fine. Besides, I need to get home quickly so I can teach my 1 year old to read.

Holy crap. how many hours a day would you have to be on CP to understand this? haha

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Not really, but on the flipside, how much do smoking related illnesses cost our health care system? Surely we'd save some dollars on that end.

^^MarchHare beat me to it.

Nothing.... Everyone dies of something.

Whether it's lung cancer at age 60 or Liver cancer at age 80, it's going to cost the health care system.

In fact living beyond retirement is just about the worst thing you can do economically for society. Ideally we would all start working as soon as possible retire and then die the next day.