UFC coming to Vancouver. Many opposed.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by dustyanddaflames

The Henderson/Bisping incident was a black eye for the UFC, and rightfully so.

I don't understand what you mean. Rightfully so? Did Hendo do wrong? Have you ever leaned into a slapshot as the ref is about to blow the whistle? Sometimea you cannot stop what you are doing in a split second. It is very easy to criticize from your couch. Hendo threw a punch that was clearly legal and within the rules...in fact, the refs tells you to protect yourself and not to stop until he says so. Hendo did nothing wrong. The sport is violent, no way around that. It is a simple fight, nothing more nothing less. And I think it is great because of that.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by henriksedin33

better the right lane than the left!

Thats what I meant but I was stoned and confused. Plus the hands were a little wet from the tie dye so I was in a hurry.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Unfortunately there's a lot of very uneducated people out there when it comes to MMA... ironically these same people often tolerate boxing (like my ex-girlfriend), but think MMA is... I'm not sure, but somehow 'worse than boxing'.

I'd loooove to read a convincing argument as to why "UFC is similar to human cockfighting'. Seriously, bring it out.

The UFC is similar to human cockfighting. Cockfighting is simply an organized fight between two roosters in a modified ring. Sometimes the fights end in death or serious injury. The birds are trained for quite a long time for these fights. I would imagine 'human cockfighting' is simply humans fighting instead of birds.
The UFC is an organized fight between two humans in a modified ring. Sometimes the fight ends in serious injury, although no death has been recorded in the UFC. I think there was one death somewhere, but I forget the details. The humans train for quite a long time for these fights.

There are many other sports where humans battle each other, aside from MMA.

I am not sure why you think they are much different? What is it about the comparison that you dislike?

Oh yeah, I am a huge fan of MMA...my life changed dramatically after a buddy brought over UFC 1 and 2 on video just after 2 aired. That is when I started training, quit smoking and really took care of myself.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

The UFC is similar to human cockfighting. Cockfighting is simply an organized fight between two roosters in a modified ring. Sometimes the fights end in death or serious injury. The birds are trained for quite a long time for these fights. I would imagine 'human cockfighting' is simply humans fighting instead of birds.
The UFC is an organized fight between two humans in a modified ring. Sometimes the fight ends in serious injury, although no death has been recorded in the UFC. I think there was one death somewhere, but I forget the details. The humans train for quite a long time for these fights.

Except for the whole matter of a complete set of rules, the presence of a ref, the participants are skilled athletes and tacticians (as opposed to birds hopped up on various drugs cocktails), and the list goes on.

At a base level I can see how uneducated fools can make the comparison and think it works, but people with minimal brain function can see the mass differences.

BTW, not targeting you there, I get that you were just playing Devils Advocate.

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by valo403

Except for the whole matter of a complete set of rules, the presence of a ref, the participants are skilled athletes and tacticians (as opposed to birds hopped up on various drugs cocktails), and the list goes on.

At a base level I can see how uneducated fools can make the comparison and think it works, but people with minimal brain function can see the mass differences.

BTW, not targeting you there, I get that you were just playing Devils Advocate.

And the fact no-one has died at a UFC event. I believe that there have only ever been 1 or 2 deaths associated with MMA and they were at unsanctioned events.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

And the fact no-one has died at a UFC event. I believe that there have only ever been 1 or 2 deaths associated with MMA and they were at unsanctioned events.

Hell, if you're going to ban things that are dangerous you might as well ban pro wrestling before UFC since, in it's present state, it is inherently more dangerous.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

I don't understand what you mean. Rightfully so? Did Hendo do wrong? Have you ever leaned into a slapshot as the ref is about to blow the whistle? Sometimea you cannot stop what you are doing in a split second. It is very easy to criticize from your couch. Hendo threw a punch that was clearly legal and within the rules...in fact, the refs tells you to protect yourself and not to stop until he says so. Hendo did nothing wrong. The sport is violent, no way around that. It is a simple fight, nothing more nothing less. And I think it is great because of that.

Henderson admitted after the fight that he knew the fight was over and he just wanted to get another shot in

He was in the wrong, no doubt about it

[Hanna Sniper]

It shut him up, funny how overblown it's become because he made a smart remark about it.... he doesn't say that comment and no one even cares

[Regulator75]

Bisping is a loud mouth bitch who got what he deserved.

WAR Hendo!

[vicphoenix13]

Originally Posted by HOOT

Maybe if you did you would relax and not take everything so seriously. Why would you get upset at all over that comment? Wow. You are embarrassing the rest of us from BC who have a sense of humor.

You're probably 'that guy" driving 90 on the nose in the right lane up island, aren't you!

I am the first one to admit that I take things to seriously at times.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by valo403

Except for the whole matter of a complete set of rules, the presence of a ref, the participants are skilled athletes and tacticians (as opposed to birds hopped up on various drugs cocktails), and the list goes on.

At a base level I can see how uneducated fools can make the comparison and think it works, but people with minimal brain function can see the mass differences.

BTW, not targeting you there, I get that you were just playing Devils Advocate.

There are rules to cockfighting, and certainly there are differences between MMA and cockfights. An uneducated fool might see the difference, but also the similarities, as would an educated fool!

Anyone who has a hard on for MMA and has their head stuck up you know where cannot see the similarities. Having something similar to cockfighting does not make something bad though. This is the modern world's gladiators, and the cockfight is the non human world's gladiators. Get over it already. If you want two items that have very little to do with each other, try MMA and pro wrestling. One is real, the other is fake. Cockfighting and MMA are both combat sports. Unfortunately, cockfighting is certainly radically different from the UFC, but you must be blind to not understand their similarities.

I have trained with people who have been in the UFC (he has not fought since 2001) and worked out with many others who have been in other orgs. I have even had my rear kicked by Olympic athletes, I don't recall any medal winners though. So don't think for a second I don't know what MMA is or that I am not a huge fan or supporter. I doubt I will ever have even an amateur MMA fight under my belt (I certainly am getting up there in age versus the kids fighting nowadays), I don't think my employers want me walking around with black eyes every day.

The fanboys who hate the cockfighting analogy simply need to grow up and understand where the term comes from. I honestly hate cockfights, but have lived in places where they are common and part of the culture.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

Henderson admitted after the fight that he knew the fight was over and he just wanted to get another shot in

He was in the wrong, no doubt about it

And this means what? Go watch the fight, if he knew the fight was over, he has pretty quick reflexes. By the time the punch connects, a mere moment later the second punch lands. If you think he had time to analyze the situation and make a decision to 'get another shot in' in some deviant way, then you are kidding yourself. Honestly. If you have watched any of Henderson's fights, you would see him jump guard and throw that same punch. Some fights the dude on the ground defends, sometimes they are out cold. Henderson made the right decision. Was Marquart smart not to punch Maia one last time? Probably not, and I would imagine his entire team reviewed that.

I am not sure what you mean by him being in the wrong. He did everything within the rules. What you are saying is almost like saying a team had no right to score another goal because they were up by too many already.