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Old 08-27-2009, 10:28 AM   #61
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...huh-huh...you used the words "Kennedy" and "shot" in the same sentence...
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:29 PM   #62
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A lot of presidents have blood on their hands. To examine an entire life is complicated.
Agreed. I don't think it's as simple as "he was a great public servant" or "he was a person whose personal actions raise important questions about his character."

Both are true, in my view--and the Kennedies are a weird bunch, both astonishing public servants and machiavellian manipulators. There's clearly a light side and a dark side to that family, and no-one should make excuses either for Chappaquiddick or for any of the other suspicious dealings that the Kennedy clan has been involved in.

On the other hand, it remains true that Kennedy had a profound impact on the every day life of millions of Americans. Disabled Americans, women, the poor, veterans, the list goes on... all of them owe a huge debt to Ted Kennedy, and no incident from his past can change that.

In the end, it was a good thing he never became President. He accomplished far more as a Senator than he ever would have in the White House. His legacy is far more wide-reaching than either of his brothers could have hoped for.
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One of the things some of you may not know about the Kennedy clan is that the father Joe Kennedy, the son of a saloon keeper, was rumoured to have made his fortune through bootlegging during prohibition. Even JFKs presidential election was said to have been secured by the mob. So when JFK and RFK went after teamsters boss Jimmy Hoffa, a known mobster, and other mob leaders, it brought up a lot of ramifications and maybe their deaths.

What this showed to me was that the Kennedys were able to change their ways and adjust to their responsibilities for the greater public good. While the two older brothers were able to carry on their private loose ways, Ted Kennedy had to change his priorities after Chappaquiddick and he became a fine public servant.
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