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Old 08-23-2009, 10:01 PM   #201
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Make sure you leave PLENTY early before the mall closes. I was there with my family and was still in line to pay when it closed at 6 pm. Once we got back to our vehicle, half the lot seemed to be empty, but it still took us an hour to make it back to Deerfoot... the first 20 minutes of it totally stationary waiting to get in line to actually exit the lot.

It's ridiculous. Mostly, IMO, because of the ONE LANE BRIDGE to get across Deerfoot to go south.
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:48 AM   #202
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I have only been there once, back when Bass Pro Shop opened and it was stupid then. I can only imagine how stupid it is now. Did they really not think this out, or are they planning/in the process, of making more exits/bridges, etc.?
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I have only been there once, back when Bass Pro Shop opened and it was stupid then. I can only imagine how stupid it is now. Did they really not think this out, or are they planning/in the process, of making more exits/bridges, etc.?
Calgary must lead the world in building malls and then acting surprised when people show up to use them.

Traffic access was re-built, I think, three times for West Hills mall and three times for the Shawnessy access before they finally got it kinda, sorta right.

It seems like a ridiculous waste of money.

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Old 08-24-2009, 07:31 AM   #204
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I have only been there once, back when Bass Pro Shop opened and it was stupid then. I can only imagine how stupid it is now. Did they really not think this out, or are they planning/in the process, of making more exits/bridges, etc.?
From what I've read, probably mostly in this thread, is that there is a new access/interchange planned for Hwy 2 between Stoney and hwy 566, and that the MD is contemplating building road between 84th street in Calgary and the mall (presumably paving and widening RR290). I would also expect that once the ring road is done, Barlow Trail/RR294 will be able to handle some of the traffic. And it does look like they are prepping to twin the bridge at hwy 566. That might begin after Stoney is done, perhaps.
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:34 AM   #205
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I got caught in that lineup on Saturday. Thank god for 4x4's though, I just drove through the ditch on to the secondary road going North on #2, and wound my way into the mall under my own maze instead of what they had set-up. Took the Rural route home and that was much better ended up in Conrich and turned west to come back to Calgary. Nice Mall, WAY too many people to actually enjoy it however.
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Old 08-24-2009, 08:31 AM   #206
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I bet the engineers who design parking lots are the ones who generally finish last in their class. How many well designed parking lots do you come across? And contrast that with how many bad ones there are.
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I hope City of Calgary citizen taxpayer dollars are not going to building overpasses to support this mall. Balzac gets the revenue, Balzac should be paying for interchanges.
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:19 AM   #208
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Does it entirely? At the rate Calgary is expanding Balzac is gonna be Calgary in about a decade...

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Old 08-24-2009, 11:38 AM   #209
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I bet the engineers who design parking lots are the ones who generally finish last in their class. How many well designed parking lots do you come across? And contrast that with how many bad ones there are.
I've heard the job of designing parking lots is given to interns and the newest hires (i.e. the people with the least experience). Results are predictable, to say the least.
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:49 AM   #210
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Being through civil engineering, traffic engineering courses were definitely the easiest courses, like easier than 1st year engineering courses even though they were 4th year courses. Absolutely the smartest ones were drawn to the Structural Engineering side. Needless to say I avoided the structural courses, they were bitches.
Kind of related, but I heard a story the other day about a medical examiner that worked in Alberta and how he got his start. Apparently, in medical school he was really good at surgery except for the part where you close the patient back up and they live.
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:02 PM   #211
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I hope City of Calgary citizen taxpayer dollars are not going to building overpasses to support this mall. Balzac gets the revenue, Balzac should be paying for interchanges.
How long 'til Balzac is Calgary?

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I hope City of Calgary citizen taxpayer dollars are not going to building overpasses to support this mall. Balzac gets the revenue, Balzac should be paying for interchanges.
I certainly hope that an unincorporated hamlet of 450 people with no central town council, are not going to be tasked with managing the revenue from the mall and funding infrastructure projects with those tens of millions. Does the town of Balzac actually get any money beyond land sales and any control of the related projects; I sort of doubt it. Any land taxes would be collected by the county, I think.
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For once it's not Calgary's fault. It's the MD Rockyview that should have been on the ball.
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For once it's not Calgary's fault. It's the MD Rockyview that should have been on the ball.
They are too busy having "money fights" to do anything about it.
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Does it entirely? At the rate Calgary is expand Balzac is gonna be Calgary in about a decade...
According to this story, Calgary has enough land for development until 2045.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...x-calgary.html
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According to this story, Calgary has enough land for development until 2045.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...x-calgary.html
Development isn't limited by how much land you can sprawl into, it's limited by capital investment, leadership and vision.
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Development isn't limited by how much land you can sprawl into, it's limited by capital investment, leadership and vision.
I'm not sure if the thumbs down is for me or the article. At any rate it appears that the city has no boundary expansion annexation plans for quite some time.
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I'm not sure if the thumbs down is for me or the article. At any rate it appears that the city has no boundary expansion annexation plans for quite some time.
It's for the Calgary's mentality of grow out, not up. The least sustainable type of development.
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Kind of related, but I heard a story the other day about a medical examiner that worked in Alberta and how he got his start. Apparently, in medical school he was really good at surgery except for the part where you close the patient back up and they live.
So, he's now a coroner or something, right?
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Kind of related, but I heard a story the other day about a medical examiner that worked in Alberta and how he got his start. Apparently, in medical school he was really good at surgery except for the part where you close the patient back up and they live.
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So, he's now a coroner or something, right?
Yeah, basically...
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