You can only choose one...

[Russic]

Somebody close to me suffers both from time to time. He says the anxiety is far worse for him. He's described it as holding onto a flying airplane by your fingertips.

[J pold]

What a bummer 'you can only pick one' question.

[troutman]

Don't worry. Be Happy.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Don't worry, you'll be there someday too.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Dumbest thing I've ever read.

I think you should make that your signature, avatar, and have a t-shirt printed and wear it all the time, because you say that about more posts than anyone else on this board. And in this case it wasn't even dumb, it was just another opinion. Something "dumb" would have been posting something like "The only real depressed people in the world have unibrows, and thus have to shave them. Its freaking gross."

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

And in this case it wasn't even dumb, it was just another opinion. Something "dumb" would have been posting something like

It was a comment based on ignorance.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

So I'm reading a book by a Jungian pyschoanalyst. The concept in the book is that that with every choice we're faced with in life (even unconscious ones), we choose between anxiety and depression.

Choosing anxiety, and the ambiguity that comes with it, is developmental and keeps us on the edge of our life.

Choosing depression is choosing regression. It sedates you and keeps you in the "sleep of your childhood".

It's been an interesting read so far.

What's the name of the book?

[TurnedTheCorner]

Finding Meaning In The Second Half Of Life.

[Jordan!]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

Agreed... it's not always the case and it's not that easy to live in the moment. Most people who suffer from either already know that, they just can't do anything about it.

Of course it's not easy, the easy way out is to take medication for what is a natural occurring emotion/response. Anxiety goes back to a deer being stalked by a mountain lion, without the fight/flight response of anxiety the deer would just be calm as hell and wouldn't have that rush to run away

No wonder this is such a doped up society, people are lazy these days and have no discipline to truly find enlightenment.

There are some people with serious, serious mental illness but for Anxiety, medication is only a short term benefit, and with depression, you can alter with a positive outlook on life, and a positive attitude in general, and of course. Living in the moment.

I don't expect many people to understand what i'm saying, in fact I expect quite a bit of backlash from my comments, and I fully understand why you may have those feelings regarding my comments.

I am of buddhist nature, something I have learned while battling my own anxiety and depression... which started 5 years ago for me. It has been a long road of ups and downs but i'm overall a more positive and calm person. From my experience, it is not one or the other, anxiety or depression. As I said, if you live in the moment, you have bliss.

While we're talking about books, I recommend the Art of Happiness by the Dalai Lama

[Dion]

Not worth it.

[TurnedTheCorner]

I don't think it's a matter of laziness so much as it is there are different ways to treat these conditions than in the past. And by living in the moment, does that mean you neither have a past nor a future? Not trying to be smug, just wondering about more of your experiences and thoughts on the subject. I'm not sure that not choosing either is genuinely possible - not choosing is a kind of choice in itself.

[Jordan!]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

I don't think it's a matter of laziness so much as it is there are different ways to treat these conditions than in the past. And by living in the moment, does that mean you neither have a past nor a future?

No. You acknowledge the future, I.E. "I have a meeting on meeting on Monday" ok, now in the past i'd worry and almost play out the meeting in my head before it even happens.. which would've made me anxious as all hell. Now I'd acknowledge my meeting, and prepare for it. But not dwell on how it's all going to play out, it'll play out in the moment and as long as I have my facts straight going into it, it'll work out.. therefore I am calm the night before and when the meeting is taking place.

Same goes for the past, you may have thoughts now and then which may make you feel down on something, even something like "I had more fun on my birthday last year" on your birthday where you may not be doing something as fun as you did last year, this may depress you. In that situation, i'd acknowledge that ok, this year's birthday wasn't as fun as it was last year, but i'll remain positive at this moment, and if you continue with your day with that attitude, the day will remain positive.

As I said, it can be pretty complex.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

As I said, it can be pretty complex.

You say it can be pretty complex yet you tell us the solution is simple. If it were that simple there would be no need for psychologists and shrinks or even medication for that matter. Reality dictates otherwise.

[Jordan!]

My psychiatrist is the person who taught me this stuff. Not gonna lie, I took 1/4 of a .25 mg of rivotril which is a mild tranquilizer for my panic/anxiety. But the first time I saw him he told me that it was just to take it, to act like a Cast, say you break your arm. You wear a cast, yes? Well what happens when you take the cast off and bump into the corner of a wall.. it hurts. So medication (The Right medication) if used like a Cast helps you with the adjustment.

The key to doing Meditation, and truly understanding why you feel the way you do, is that when you were to bump into a wall so to speak (aka, have an anxiety attack) that you are able suppress it, you cannot eliminate it completely as it IS a 100% natural reaction.

Same goes for Depression, if you start to get a wave of feeling depressed, without the ability to see the bigger picture of life, you'll just continue to sink into the black hole of depression.

Life IS simple, Happiness, IS simple. Retraining your brain is what is truly complex.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

I think you should make that your signature, avatar, and have a t-shirt printed and wear it all the time, because you say that about more posts than anyone else on this board.

I have it set as my auto-fill in IE for when I reply to threads.

[Buff]

I've gone through serious anxiety twice, and haven't really had any major depression. Not sure how I would react with depression, but anxiety sucked. It felt like I was on the verge of a heart attack. Very scary. I choose depression.

[Buzzard]

that's like asking deaf or blind? how could you choose? i hate questions like this Buzzards wife

[Phanuthier]

I suffered from depression for a few months, toughest time of my life. 1000x's worse than any physical injury I've ever had, and I've had my fair share. You can suck it up when it comes to physical pain, but mental pain is unbearable. So I'd tempted to say I'd rather have anxiety, though I've never had an issue with that.

[Jordan!]

Anxiety leads to depression though, because it can make you lose alot of self confidence.

This question is bunk.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

Anxiety leads to depression though, because it can make you lose alot of self confidence.

This question is bunk.

Depression and anxiety are 2 totaly different things.