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Old 07-31-2009, 06:50 PM   #161
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How come so many of the conspiracy websites also have items against Jews in them? This is not the first time someone has linked a site that wound up being tied to racist material.
Thinly veiled antisemitism going back several centuries.
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Old 07-31-2009, 07:04 PM   #162
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The 9/11 terrorists were better educated and had better career paths (if they so chose) than 90% people on CP pecking at their computers.

Terrorists tend to be extremely well educated, well above average intelligence, extremely bigoted, and well supported by governments. The lackeys they get to blow themselves up tend to be poor and poorly educated. Usually.

Reading into the mind of a terrorist

Jerrold Post, a professor of psychology at George Washington University, has not analyzed the doomsday text. But he has delved into the mind-set of suicide terrorists by interviewing dozens of their handlers - those who selected and prepared Palestinian suicide terrorists.
His research has led him to draw a sharp distinction between Palestinian suicide bombers and the 9/11 hijackers, whose psychology "shatters the profile," he says in a phone interview.
The Palestinian bombers are usually young men and women, carefully picked, brainwashed by handlers, and then watched each step of the way until they carry out their mission.
But the 9/11 hijackers were "fully formed, well-educated adults, [and] true believers," Dr. Post says. This enabled them to live among Americans for years without straying from their original convictions and determination.


What are these guys' excuse?
North Carolina Terrorist cell

Yes we should live and cringe in fear of Christian Fundamentalists.

McVeigh's actions were not driven by his Christian beliefs though he is continuously pointed out by cultural-relativists to show how "Christianity is no better" etc....
what excuses? I was talking about the 'lackeys they get to blow themselves up'. This is a discussion on Islamist terrorism, I thought, not 9/11.

I'm speaking in general terms, not about something of the massive scale of 9/11.

I never suggested there was any sort of 'excuse' for such vile, evil behavior.

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Old 07-31-2009, 07:47 PM   #163
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what excuses? I was talking about the 'lackeys they get to blow themselves up'. This is a discussion on Islamist terrorism, I thought, not 9/11.

I'm speaking in general terms, not about something of the massive scale of 9/11.

I never suggested there was any sort of 'excuse' for such vile, evil behavior.
I think he might have been suggesting that "oppression" is not the real reason why these people turn to terrorism, since they were middle class. (Common belief among lefties is that terrorism is somehow our fault as we're the oppressors.)
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Old 07-31-2009, 07:48 PM   #164
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what excuses? I was talking about the 'lackeys they get to blow themselves up'. This is a discussion on Islamist terrorism, I thought, not 9/11.

I'm speaking in general terms, not about something of the massive scale of 9/11.

I never suggested there was any sort of 'excuse' for such vile, evil behavior.
I think HOZ might have been suggesting that "oppression" is not the real reason why these people turn to terrorism, since they were middle class. (Common belief among lefties is that terrorism is somehow our fault as we're the oppressors.)

EDIT: Sorry for the double post.
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:12 PM   #165
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No he's not.

People that go on a plane and don't have a slight second thought when they see 4 young Muslim adults.....have either been living in a cave for the past 10 years, or they're mentally ######ed.

We might not be SCARED, nor do we fear them, or think they're bad people, but we sure as hell think about it(9/11) all the time.

Thank the media for that.
I don't give it a second thought when I see men of middle eastern descent on a plane.

I, however, did sit in between a protestant and a catholic once. Now that was a scary flight.
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:05 PM   #166
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How come so many of the conspiracy websites also have items against Jews in them? This is not the first time someone has linked a site that wound up being tied to racist material.

Pfft....

Everyone who is informed knows the Joos are behind everything. Sheesh
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:16 AM   #167
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I think he might have been suggesting that "oppression" is not the real reason why these people turn to terrorism, since they were middle class. (Common belief among lefties is that terrorism is somehow our fault as we're the oppressors.)
but he's responding to me, and I was hardly talking about Big Bad White Western Oppression, I was simply stating the fact proven by events all around the world (including those totally unrelated to Islam) and throughout history that poverty breeds crime and violence.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:17 AM   #168
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but he's responding to me, and I was hardly talking about Big Bad White Western Oppression, I was simply stating the fact proven by events all around the world (including those totally unrelated to Islam) and throughout history that poverty breeds crime and violence.

Granted I quoted you but you were not my only target in this thread and I did not make it clear at all.

But you did say this.


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Places where most of the population are well-educated (in a relatively good system) and exposed to foreign cultures as well as their own don't tend to have problems with terrorism.
This is not true. Nor is it true for Non-Islamic terrorists such as the IRA. Until Communism collapsed Europe was filled with terrorists of all kinds. Terrorism is not a primarily poor phenomenon like crime.
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America and Canada when formed were predominately poor people who if educated at all were educated in a religious run school. Crime and violence were not hallmarks of either nation when they were formed.
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but he's responding to me, and I was hardly talking about Big Bad White Western Oppression, I was simply stating the fact proven by events all around the world (including those totally unrelated to Islam) and throughout history that poverty breeds crime and violence.
When kids (even in middel class families in Western Countries) are exposed to hatreful ideas by their parents and at school (run by fundamentalists), sadly, there is little these kids can do, but learn hatred.

Providing youth programs and building playgrounds does little to change that.
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