The western christian faith these days rarely preach about old testament unless it Psalms, Proverbs, or Isaiah. The focus is the story and message of Christ, not Deuteronomy, the old testament has its place in religious history but to say it guides the mindset of the Christian faith would be a very weak statement.
The western christian faith these days rarely preach about old testament unless it Psalms, Proverbs, or Isaiah. The focus is the story and message of Christ, not Deuteronomy, the old testament has its place in religious history but to say it guides the mindset of the Christian faith would be a very weak statement.
I agree with this, and to be honest, if I was still a church goer, I would be missing the old testiment teachings. I mean the New Testiment is all fluffy bunnies and forgiveness. In the Old Testiment to be honest, God was deliciously evil. Hey why do I smell sulpher?
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Speaking of this whole Islam thing..................I stumbled upon a man named Louis Farrakhan, who is the leader of the Nation of Islam church in the U.S.A. Muhammad Ali was a member of this church.....which is predominantly black.
Anyways, this guy is a great speaker and in theses 2-10 minute clips he speaks of American foreign policy, central banks, WW1, WW2 etc.......
Very interesting!
The western christian faith these days rarely preach about old testament unless it Psalms, Proverbs, or Isaiah. The focus is the story and message of Christ, not Deuteronomy, the old testament has its place in religious history but to say it guides the mindset of the Christian faith would be a very weak statement.
But we are talking extremists here. Fred Phelps types. And I will bet my bottom dollar that Phelps is talking Deuteronomy.
Extremists from every religion are going to quote scripture for their own evil ends.
umm, its funny that you can hide honest and fearless behind
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Do you know some of these satanic Jews have taken over BET?... Everything that we built, they have. The mind of Satan now is running the record industry, movie industry and television. And they make us look like we’re the murders; we look like we’re the gangsters, but we’re punk stuff.”
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“Justifiable Homicide: Black Youth in Peril (Part 3)” speech at Mosque Maryam, 11/11/07
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“These false Jews promote the filth of Hollywood that is seeding the American people and the people of the world and bringing you down in moral strength…It’s the wicked Jews the false Jews that are promoting Lesbianism, homosexuality. It’s wicked Jews, false Jews that make it a crime for you to preach the word of God, then they call you homophobic!”
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Saviours’ Day, Chicago, Illinois, 2/26/06
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“I call them the so-called Jews because to be a Jew you have to adhere to the statutes and laws that create the special relationship. How can you be a Jew and promote homosexual marriage?” National Black Agenda Convention, Boston, 3/18/04
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"You say I hate Jews. I don't hate the Jewish people, I never have. But there [are] some things I don't like. 'What is it you don't like, Farrakhan?' I don't like the way you leech on us. See a leech is somebody that sucks your blood, takes from you and don't give you a damn thing. See, I don't like that kind of arrangement. You become our manager, you become our agent. Every one of us that got talent, we can't make it because you opened the door, and when you opened the door you get and we end up dead with nothing, owing the IRS."
8th Anniversary The Holy Day of Atonement speech at Mosque Maryam, Chicago, 10/16/03
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I'm not into integration. I ain't for that. God told the Jews, he didn't want you intermarrying with others. But you disobeyed him. He don't want us uniting into this that he's come to judge… You can't integrate with wickedness if you want righteousness."
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8th Anniversary The Holy Day of Atonement speech at Mosque Maryam, Chicago, 10/16
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"You can go to Palestine, called Israel today, you can see Sodom, you can see Gomorrah, ain't nothing built there. God hadn't let anything be built there to show you his displeasure against homosexual behavior. Now the church says it's all right. I was an Episcopalian before I was a Muslim, and I liked my church. I can't remember anybody in the church, if they were gay they were hiding that. They were sure acting like men, you know what I mean."
8th Anniversary The Holy Day of Atonement speech at Mosque Maryam, Chicago, 10/16/03
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Farrakhan: "Is the Federal Reserve owned by the government?" Audience: "No."
Farrakhan: "Who owns the federal reserve?" Audience: "Jews."
Farrakhan: "The same year they set up the IRS, they set up the FBI. And the same year they set up the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith… It could be a coincidence… [I want] to see black intellectuals free… I want to see them not controlled by members of the Jewish community." Dallas Observer on-line, 8/10/00
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"I believe that for the small numbers of Jewish people in the United States, they exercise a tremendous amount of influence on the affairs of government...Yes, they exercise extraordinary control, and Black people will never be free in this country until they are free of that kind of control..." Meet The Press interview, 4/14/97
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"And you do with me as is written, but remember that I have warned you that Allah will punish you. You are wicked deceivers of the American people. You have sucked their blood. You are not real Jews, those of you that are not real Jews. You are the synagogue of Satan, and you have wrapped your tentacles around the U.S. government, and you are deceiving and sending this nation to hell. But I warn you in the name of Allah, you would be wise to leave me alone. But if you choose to crucify me, know that Allah will crucify you." Saviours' Day Speech, Chicago, 2/25
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"I don't own Hollywood. Who depicted Black people? Who writes the books? Who writes the plays, the songs that make us look less than human? Do you mean to tell me that Jews have never done any evil to Black people?...Were they not involved in the slave trade? Yes, they were...and to the extent that they were involved, somebody has to bring them to account. And I believe that has fallen on me." Interview with New York Amsterdam News, 1/8/94
While Farrakhan has done a lot of good in the black community, his views on Jews, and his views on homosexuality border on or exceed the standard that we waive around for hate speech.
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Speaking of this whole Islam thing..................I stumbled upon a man named Louis Farrakhan, who is the leader of the Nation of Islam church in the U.S.A. Muhammad Ali was a member of this church.....which is predominantly black.
....and some of you may have bought into the accusations of this guy being an anti-semite, but I think he is just bluntly honest and fearless.
Yeah, this great man deserves the fate of most "honest and fearless" crusaders throughout history... a bullet or the hangman's noose...
In one of the clips he comments on how the Warburgs(Jews) and Rothschilds(Jews), financed Hitlers Germany, who turned around and killed 6 million jews as we all know........and he says "and they call ME an anti-semite?!".........
To me, he just says what others are afraid to say. He sees things a certain way and he has a right to speak about it if he sees it as truth.
In one of the clips he comments on how the Warburgs(Jews) and Rothschilds(Jews), financed Hitlers Germany, who turned around and killed 6 million jews as we all know........and he says "and they call ME an anti-semite?!".........
To me, he just says what others are afraid to say. He sees things a certain way and he has a right to speak about it if he sees it as truth.
An idiot quoting an idiot doesn't make something a "truth"...
In one of the clips he comments on how the Warburgs(Jews) and Rothschilds(Jews), financed Hitlers Germany, who turned around and killed 6 million jews as we all know........and he says "and they call ME an anti-semite?!".........
To me, he just says what others are afraid to say. He sees things a certain way and he has a right to speak about it if he sees it as truth.
that would be equivalent to me saying "I don't hate blacks, but they're responsible for all of the drug business and gang related crime in America"
Farrakhan is as militant and hate filled as he can get. He received $6 million dollars in gifts from Libya during the 80's I think. He had a pretty big hand in the death of Malcolm X, where he basically incited the NOI to a point where they killed him. He's a conspiracy wack job when it comes to 9/11, and also accussed President Bush of dynamiting levee's during the New Orleans crisis to intentionally kill blacks.
His views on gay marriage are views that get people crucified on this board.
Don't forget that he mentored that lunatic Khalid Abdul Muhammad who was all about killing whitey, jews and homosexuals.
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that would be equivalent to me saying "I don't hate blacks, but they're responsible for all of the drug business and gang related crime in America"
Farrakhan is as militant and hate filled as he can get. He received $6 million dollars in gifts from Libya during the 80's I think. He had a pretty big hand in the death of Malcolm X, where he basically incited the NOI to a point where they killed him. He's a conspiracy wack job when it comes to 9/11, and also accussed President Bush of dynamiting levee's during the New Orleans crisis to intentionally kill blacks.
His views on gay marriage are views that get people crucified on this board.
Don't forget that he mentored that lunatic Khalid Abdul Muhammad who was all about killing whitey, jews and homosexuals.
Well, not much he said shocked me as I kind of expected a hardline stance from a guy like that, but nobody is perfect. In viewing some of his other speeches, I think he has a pretty good handle on American foreign policy.
His views on gay marriage are not politically correct, I agree, but in America one has the freedom to speak his mind.
Also, I am not very familiar with his past involvment with Malcolm-X, but he speaks positively about him in the stuff I have seen.
I do not agree with you saying he is a "militant".....what do you mean by that? He seems to be spread the message that muslims are peaceful and that he does not support U.S. wars, foreign policy etc.
You took that way out of context. You should read the rest of that statement.
Here is the full statement;
"So I said to the members of the press, 'Why won't you go and look into what we are saying about the threats on Reverend Jackson's life?' Here the Jews don't like Farrakhan and so they call me 'Hitler'. Well that's a good name. Hitler was a very great man. He wasn't great for me as a Black man but he was a great German and he rose Germany up from the ashes of her defeat by the united force of all of Europe and America after the First World War. Yet Hitler took Germany from the ashes and rose her up and made her the greatest fighting machine of the twentieth century, brothers and sisters, and even though Europe and America had deciphered the code that Hitler was using to speak to his chiefs of staff, they still had trouble defeating Hitler even after knowing his plans in advance. Now I'm not proud of Hitler's evil toward Jewish people, but that's a matter of record. He rose Germany up from nothing. Well, in a sense you could say there is a similarity in that we are rising our people up from nothing, but don't compare me with your wicked killers."
Also, his thoughts on Malcolm-X;
On May 20, 2000, Farrakhan publicly rejected CBS News' characterization of the interview stating, "It appears that the aim of 60 Minutes, CBS and Mike Wallace was to make the American public believe that I, Louis Farrakhan, ordered the assassination of Malcolm X. It in no way reflected the spirit of Miss Shabazz and myself and our attempt to continue the path of reconciliation started by Dr. Betty Shabazz and me in 1994 and 1995." [44]
In a June 5 2000, interview titled 'Setting the Record Straight' with Jet Magazine, Farrakhan said "the interview was edited in such a way to give viewers the impression that Farrakhan had a role in Malcolm's death."[45] Of the full 4 hour interview, CBS edited the broadcast portion down to 12 minutes
Seems like a guy the mainstream media portrays as a hater.....
You took that way out of context. You should read the rest of that statement.
Here is the full statement;
"So I said to the members of the press, 'Why won't you go and look into what we are saying about the threats on Reverend Jackson's life?' Here the Jews don't like Farrakhan and so they call me 'Hitler'. Well that's a good name. Hitler was a very great man. He wasn't great for me as a Black man but he was a great German and he rose Germany up from the ashes of her defeat by the united force of all of Europe and America after the First World War. Yet Hitler took Germany from the ashes and rose her up and made her the greatest fighting machine of the twentieth century, brothers and sisters, and even though Europe and America had deciphered the code that Hitler was using to speak to his chiefs of staff, they still had trouble defeating Hitler even after knowing his plans in advance. Now I'm not proud of Hitler's evil toward Jewish people, but that's a matter of record. He rose Germany up from nothing. Well, in a sense you could say there is a similarity in that we are rising our people up from nothing, but don't compare me with your wicked killers."
When you put any quote talking about the greatness of Hitler, no matter what the context, combine it with its military prowness, and then combine it with his other quotes concerning Jews, and its disconcerting.
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Also, his thoughts on Malcolm-X;
On May 20, 2000, Farrakhan publicly rejected CBS News' characterization of the interview stating, "It appears that the aim of 60 Minutes, CBS and Mike Wallace was to make the American public believe that I, Louis Farrakhan, ordered the assassination of Malcolm X. It in no way reflected the spirit of Miss Shabazz and myself and our attempt to continue the path of reconciliation started by Dr. Betty Shabazz and me in 1994 and 1995." [44]
In a June 5 2000, interview titled 'Setting the Record Straight' with Jet Magazine, Farrakhan said "the interview was edited in such a way to give viewers the impression that Farrakhan had a role in Malcolm's death."[45] Of the full 4 hour interview, CBS edited the broadcast portion down to 12 minutes
Seems like a guy the mainstream media portrays as a hater.....
I never said that he ordered the assasination of Malcolm X, but he certainly had a role in it by creating an atmosphere of violence against Malcolm X. Its great that he comes out and sets the record straight now, but he might as well have shot the gun himself.
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Malcolm X recruited Louis Farrakhan into the Nation of Islam in the 1950s, Carson said, and Farrakhan, then known as Louis X, was a protégé of Malcolm's until Malcolm broke with Muhammad. In the Muslim newspaper, Muhammad Speaks, Farrakhan condemned Malcolm for his efforts to establish ties with civil rights groups. He wrote also that "the die is set, and Malcolm shall not escape, especially after such evil foolish talk about his benefactor, Elijah Muhammad. Such a man as Malcolm is worthy of death."
Sounds strikingly like the fatwa put in place on Salmon Rushdie (sp>)
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But we are talking extremists here. Fred Phelps types. And I will bet my bottom dollar that Phelps is talking Deuteronomy.
Extremists from every religion are going to quote scripture for their own evil ends.
Well sure, but that extremist attitude is probably from underlying mental issues, Phelps would be using religion in an improper way to push a message. You just don't blame religion when it is being manipulated as a tool to spread a terrible message, that's like blaming guns for some nut job going and killing someone, the guns wouldn't be the issue it is the idiot who got his hands on one.
With respect to Islam, you have nations who get suppressed on the world scale, they suffer from poor standards of living, depression, poverty, it spreads a poor morale and for people to be heard on the big stage they do stupid stuff and manipulate the religion that surrounds them to send a message. I would guess that very message is what most Muslims hate and despise, I feel sorry for good Arabic people out there who must feel like the black sheep on an airplane.
Speaking of this whole Islam thing..................I stumbled upon a man named Louis Farrakhan, who is the leader of the Nation of Islam church in the U.S.A. Muhammad Ali was a member of this church.....which is predominantly black.
Anyways, this guy is a great speaker and in theses 2-10 minute clips he speaks of American foreign policy, central banks, WW1, WW2 etc.......
Very interesting!
