I think the exellero would have to be considered a concept. They built one as a show car for Tires and as a Maybach design concept. Car never went into production.
All concepts are finished cars. They just switch from concept once they go into production. Since it never went into production, I would have to vote for concept.
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I was kind of leaning towards it being a concept car as it is a one-off kind of deal, but that is a slippery slope. I don't have time to go back and look right now but didn't we have some debate about the Ferrari P4/5 by Pininfarina? I think it is a one-off car as well but right now it is sitting in Tim's exotic category.
Has the Tesla S gone into production yet? If not, I think that should hit the concept category instead of Sedan. Since there is only one made, which is just like the Excelero
There is also the cars that are pre-production...so they are more solid than a concept but are yet to be produced.
Perhaps a concept should be any car that does not have a public production date from the manufacturer. If it has been put in production, or has a date of production specified it can be placed into a non-concept category....
So if Maybach stated that they were going to produce the Exelero in say 2012...I would accept it as a non-concept
Thoughts?
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That's a little different. That vehicle is a heavily modified Enzo.
Perhaps you are right. I couldn't remember the details of that debate.
I don't particularly care one way or the other as this draft is just for fun; but I would lean towards saying that if a car isn't in or didn't have a production run then it should be a concept car.
There is also the cars that are pre-production...so they are more solid than a concept but are yet to be produced.
Perhaps a concept should be any car that does not have a public production date from the manufacturer. If it has been put in production, or has a date of production specified it can be placed into a non-concept category....
So if Maybach stated that they were going to produce the Exelero in say 2012...I would accept it as a non-concept
Thoughts?
Well, in that case the exelero does have a production date and that was back in May 2005...
With the next pick in the draft (I think it is my turn), Koenigferrarilamboseggviking, picks in the Concept category, the Lamborghini Estoque. I was going to use it as my Sedan, but we agreed it is concept way back in pages 8 and 9, and then Steely re-picked.
Top Gear video:
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Sorry for the delay, I got pulled into doing some real work...
With our 11th round, Lemelin's Lemmings are pleased to complete our "Ultimate Driving Machine" trifecta with the selection of the BMW E34 M5 in the Sedan category.
I was really worried that this car wasn't going to make it back to me. The combination of performance and classic styling make this car one of my all time favorites. I came awfully close to buying one of these last summer but just couldn't quite find the right one. I'm 95% sure that this will be my next car.
As stated on TopGear, this car is the original super saloon. A race car that just happens to have a sedan body placed on top of it (see the link in post #281).
The North American version produced 307 hp and could reach 60 mph in 6.4 seconds while the Euro version had a slightly larger displacement and produced 335 hp with a 0-60 of 5.9 seconds.
Produced between 1989 and 1995 this was the last of the true hand built M cars (not like the assembly line stuff they make today).
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Assembly was done either by a single M employee, or a team of M employees, and generally took about two weeks. It is rumoured that the test drivers of the E34 M5 could determine who or what team made each specific M5, due to characteristic quirks of the hand built nature of the E34 M5. The engines were also built by hand by BMW M technicians. All of the E34 M5 petrol engines were built to a tolerance of within 5% of advertised output.
Here are a couple of links to some more details on the E34 M5...
