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Boblobla · 07-15-2009, 03:18 PM

Man, Tower is going to have a field day with this one.

Who uses a pay phone now other than drug dealers?

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...commentSection

Payphone calls could be recorded

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If you happen to use a phone booth over the next few weeks, you may see a sticker message you have never seen before.

The sticker offers a warning to anyone using the phone that the number, the time, and the date of the call might be recorded, and the caller could be subpoenaed by police in a criminal investigation.

The idea comes from Alderman John Mar who says he's tired of getting complaints from residents who say dozens of phone booths are regularly used to make drug deals.

There are some GOLDEN comments as well.

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THERE IS SUCH A THING CALLED THE PRIVACY ACT.THIS WOULD BE TOTALY AGAINST THAT LAW.I HARDLY HAVE EVER USED A PAY PHONE BUT THIS IS STILL TOTALY WRONG.MAYBE THEY SHOULD OBAY THE LAWS THAT THEY WRIGHT.

transplant99 · 07-15-2009, 03:22 PM

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The sticker offers a warning to anyone using the phone that the number, the time, and the date of the call might be recorded, and the caller could be subpoenaed by police in a criminal investigation.

Same goes for any private phone. If you are a suspected drug dealer the police can seek wire-taps and/or call history as part of their investigation.

Nothing new here.

Boblobla · 07-15-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

Same goes for any private phone. If you are a suspected drug dealer the police can seek wire-taps and/or call history as part of their investigation.

Nothing new here.

Yeah, but not every cell conversation is recorded, or at least that is what they would have you believe

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GreatWhiteEbola · 07-15-2009, 03:26 PM

Now what am I going to do!!!???

Phaneuf3 · 07-15-2009, 03:28 PM

Time to take a lesson from Portugal and just legalize it.
It worked there, it can work here.

Bring_Back_Shantz · 07-15-2009, 03:32 PM

I'm guessing that there is nothing new about cops requesting phone records from pay phones. I'm thinking this is more of a campaign to keep drud dealers from using pay phones, i.e. making their job tougher.

flip · 07-15-2009, 03:32 PM

As long as the phone call itself isn't recorded I don't care.

I'll gladly let the government know who I'm calling and when.

transplant99 · 07-15-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Phaneuf3

Time to take a lesson from Portugal and just legalize it.
It worked there, it can work here.

Its not legalized...its decriminalized...for users.

Dealers still go to jail for trafficking.

flip · 07-15-2009, 03:33 PM

That and I don't think they're talking about weed. This is about crack, coke, meth, heroin.

transplant99 · 07-15-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by flip

That and I don't think they're talking about weed. This is about crack, coke, meth, heroin.

Coke and heroin are also part of that program...not sure about meth or crack (though crack is coke technically).

flip · 07-15-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

Coke and heroin are also part of that program...not sure about meth or crack (though crack is coke technically).

Program? You mean decriminalized? Or the phone booth thing?

transplant99 · 07-15-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by flip

Program? You mean decriminalized? Or the phone booth thing?

Decriminalized.

here is an old article about it.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...riminalization

flip · 07-15-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

Decriminalized.

here is an old article about it.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...riminalization

Oh, in Portugal.

Because in Canada no drugs are decriminalized. Even though cops likely won't bust you for less than an ounce, having a scale, weapons etc the bill got scrapped when the Conservatives took power a few years ago.

ikaris · 07-15-2009, 04:07 PM

Drugs dealers honestly would use pay phones? That seems um... ignorant considering how they would expose themselves in plain sight.

I would think that they would just use disposable pay-as-you-go phones from a 7-11 purchased by someone else with cash only (essentially untraceable and impossible to prove ownership)?

Barnes · 07-15-2009, 04:07 PM

Can I still use the phone booths to go number 1?

Gozer · 07-15-2009, 04:12 PM

Clark Kent is not pleased.

Azure · 07-15-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by flip

I'll gladly let the government know who I'm calling and when.

I wouldn't.

The government can go f itself.

Only way I tell them who I'm calling is if they get a warrant to force me too.

Otherwise they should stay the hell out of my private life. And that includes tracking my GPS.

llama64 · 07-15-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Azure

Otherwise they should stay the hell out of my private life. And that includes tracking my GPS.

If you're paranoid, don't buy a transmitting GPS (outside of GPS phones, do most units even transmit? I thought it was a passive technology...)

My suggestion to the people who are pissed off by this: get a bunch of friends together and a large back of quarters and dimes. Start calling people and striking up inane and pointless conversations, but drop random key words like "pickup" and "drop" and other drug trafficing terminology.

Some poor schmuck has to sit there and listen to these calls - might as well make it hard to hear through the noise :P

Bring_Back_Shantz · 07-15-2009, 04:42 PM

Why are people talking about the converstaions being recorded?

This has NOTHING to do with conversations being recorded, only that the cops could potentailly subpoena the phone records that show who was called and when, something that I'd be willing to bet quite a bit, that they could already do.

Azure · 07-15-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by llama64

If you're paranoid, don't buy a transmitting GPS (outside of GPS phones, do most units even transmit? I thought it was a passive technology...)

My suggestion to the people who are pissed off by this: get a bunch of friends together and a large back of quarters and dimes. Start calling people and striking up inane and pointless conversations, but drop random key words like "pickup" and "drop" and other drug trafficing terminology.

Some poor schmuck has to sit there and listen to these calls - might as well make it hard to hear through the noise :P

I have no problem with THIS. Provided they have the proper clearance, the police can monitor any phone call they want as far as I'm concerned. But they better not do it without a warrant.

My phone has GPS, but I set it to '911 only.'